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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by thatbrian, Dec 10, 2017.

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  1. JonShaff

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    Paul gives commentary as to what "Dead" means and looks like, if we keep reading...

    Eph 2:2-3 ESV in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.

    This passage says nothing of whether or not we can respond to God. Saying "dead men do not cooperate with grace" is saying something that the texts does not speak on itself, right wrong or indifferent.
     
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    I really think few here see loss of salvation, as only ones who do would be those in groups such as SDA...
     
  3. thatbrian

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    Ah, that might be what bothers them.

    I wonder if calling them 1-point Calvinists would bug them more, though?! :)
     
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    They still think John calvin invented Calvinism, even thoughits major points came after Him.
     
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    <Sigh> No, the "major points" came before John Calvin. 1500 years before John Calvin!
     
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    Actually Calvinism should be called Gnosticism. Calvin did not invent what is mistakenly called Calvinism Augustine invented it.

    I've been posting here for 10 years and as yet have never met a true Arminian. Calvinist refuse to acknowledge that there are Born again Christians following Christ who do not hold to any doctrine that comes from there former Catholic Brethern. They feel all men follow other men instead of Christ. I follow no one but Christ. There is no one in Calvinism that has any authority on the doctrine of Christ. They teach a doctrine of men because when they can't defend there Calvinism they try to use Quotes from there well know Brethren of the past.

    Calvinist think it a shame that there are Christians who have not done a study of Calvin and Augustine. I have God's word to study and it tells me I need no other teacher than the Holy Spirit. I have read some of Augustine and quite a bit of Calvin yet I find nothing from either to be inspiring.
    MB
     
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    I know, started with jesus, peter, paul, and John, then Augustine and others, than John got his understanding. just was saying many critics seem to think that he founded the whole theology!
     
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    Calvinism is found in the scriptures though, as that is where Augustine and calvin found it!
     
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    Calvinism is a system of theology.
     
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    No. In order to by a system of theology it would have to include the other theological disciplines.

    "Calvinism" is a word that has no definition. It means whatever the user wants it to mean.

    Systematic Theology is, by definition, topical. While Biblical Theology is, by definition, biblical.

    Particular Redemption is a subject based on the bible and does not include the other Theological disciplines,

    Theology (Proper) – The study of the character of God
    Angelology – The study of angels
    Anthropology – The study of the nature of man.
    Bibliology – The study of the bible
    Christology – The study of Christ
    Ecclesiology – The study of the church
    Eschatology – The study of last things
    Hamartiology – The study of sin
    Pneumatology – The study of the Holy Spirit
    Soteriology – The study of salvation

    Soteriology is inclusive of all expressions of the Ordo Salutus.
     
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    No truer words have been spoken!
     
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    Ah, but I suggest to you that you are judging harshly and that Hank is indeed contributing to the 'sharpening process' by just being Hank, you just don't see it. He even 'liked' this post of yours'.
     
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    The problem is...you used too many verses in context...is that even allowed?
     
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    Gentiles were always part of God's eternal to become part of the True israel of God.kyred shows you the necessity of the new birth, it is not optional.
     
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    Your dispensational error blinds you to the truth here ITL.
     
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    Your post is nonsense.You repeat this trying to talk yourself into it. If you stated what you believe biblically it would show who you are and I guarantee there would be no unique position that you only have come to.
     
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    Well done
     
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    I would not say a new heart, but I would say insight
     
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    Why do you even try with him.
     
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    Thank You
     
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