You did not read the post. I was not talking about evangelism, but about the effects of Rock/CCM it can help one when exercising.
The blessings of Rock N Roll Music
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by evangelist6589, Jun 21, 2013.
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evangelist6589 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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evangelist6589 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Great article...
This is a great article I was recently sent.
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1 Jhn 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Here, John tells us not to love the world, nor the things in the world. What exactly does he mean by this? everything is in the world.
What is meant is explained in the following verses, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life. These are the things we are not supposed to love.
I believe Rock music clearly comes under lust of the flesh. It is very sensual music that appeals to the flesh. A person can literally become mesmerized by it, and lose self control. It reduces the inhibitions much like alcohol, you are apt to behave in ways you would not normally do under the influence of Rock music.
This is a comical little gif of folks dancing to Rock music, but the little boy's face says it all, these people are acting silly and out of control. This is the influence of Rock music.
That said, there are other forms of music that also make folks act like this. As Christians I do not believe we are ever to allow ourselves to come under the influence of music, alcohol, drugs, etc... -
JohnDeereFan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Look how many people bought Spice Girls records and they were awful.
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Also, since Rock Music is so dangerous, please give us a musical definition of it so we may avoid it...and make sure the definition makes it clear the the characteristics of it that make it rock music are also forbidden in Scripture.
I don't believe there is a MUSICAL element that causes a music to be sinful...perhaps the extras that often come with it (sensuality, drug use, anger, hate, self-centeredness) but not the music itself.
A 1 year old will naturally bounce up and down to music...dance, if you will...and it doesn't have to be rock music to have this effect... I personally don't believe this is a sinful reaction to music, some evidence of falleness (not like biting your siblings is) ...but a God-given natural response to music. Moving with music is not sinful...so music that draws out (doesn't control) a movement is not by definition sinful. -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AC41dglnM
Now, I have been playing guitar 50 years, I grew up playing this very kind of music. I absolutely love the sound, but it is sensual and I do not think God wants us acting this way.
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I really like the oldies but goodies stuff. As I really quit listening to rock and roll about all together for over twenty years. And started liking the oldies stuff in 1986.
As really music at the time was really meaningful and had a soul. With all due respect, today's music does not have that and lacks them both.
If you grew up in those eras of the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, you would know what I mean. It takes a rare music like today's music to put me in the mood.
FTR, I love all kinds of music except for rap and heavy metal. Sorry for those that like that kind of music. -
(I do believe in inhereted sin nature that expresses itself very early, but even I don't think bouncing to music is one of those expressions) -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0QuG6_FA6I
I actually think this little kid is cute, especially when the solo begins.
But scriptures do not want us to be marked by sensuality.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Revellings are when people parade through the streets drunk often with loud music. This is the kind of thing we are not supposed to do.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
This is just an another example of personal preference, and not objectivity. -
In fact, in the video they are not really acting, they are truly moving to the music. -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
So jerking your head up and down is sensual? -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BGSfyfjQWc
You might be thinking of Alvin Lee of Ten Years After who recently passed away. -
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Are you going to tell is what is sensual about shaking one's head up and down? This is your third opportunity... -
I am not going to keep arguing with you, every one needs to decide between themselves and the Lord what is acceptable music. -
evangelist6589 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
You use straw-men arguments and paint with a broad brush. Sure there are abuses, but you cant assume that EVERYONE will fall under this influence in this fashion. However I do agree with you, but it depends on the type of music. For example I had a old roommate whom attended a very contemporary church and they always were having rock concerts, and this man seemed obsessed with concerts and I almost never saw him reading the Bible. Sure he said wonderful things about Francis Chan and David Platt, but his testimony was questionable in this area.
But then there are those that use more contemporary praise rock as a form of worship. I have attended a reformed churches that did this. They would have a band and play a soft rock worship service, but it was not a rock concert, however 99% of Fundamentalist would have an issue with it. So I think discernment is needed.
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