The Bush Secret: Skull and Bones

[Speed Gracer]

one two Buy this book

 

[poncho]

And this book.

 

[church mouse guy]

Originally posted by Speed Gracer:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Also, the Skull and Bones was founded in 1832 so that it is impossible that it was founded by nazis as you charged in your statement, "Skull and Bones founding father organaztion's most prominent members were Nazis." That is just absurd that people in 1832 were nazis 100 years before there was a nazi party.

The brotherhood organazation had members that were nazi's. I never said it was in 1832. Just a little misunderstanding. </font>[/QUOTE]I quoted you word for word. You mistyped evidently when you typed founding fathers, because the organization of Skull and Bones dates from the early 19th century.

 

[church mouse guy]

I am not buying any books.

You started out talking about Skull and Bones and ended up talking about Prescott Bush was a nazi. I think it is reprehensible what you are charging.

I doubt if you lot will ever dedicate as much of your lives to the government and public service as Prescott Bush did. Most rich people just pass their days indulging themselves. Clearly, you know nothing about the man or his children and grandchildren and great grandchildren. I wonder what you have done for America? And are you going to tell me that your own personal Christianity is compatible with nazism or is it just someone else's Christianity that is compatible with nazism?

 

[Phillip]

Originally posted by Speed Gracer:
The article

1941, hmmmmmm. Let me ask you if you use a Christmas tree, since it originated from pagans who sacrificed babies (particularly girls) on a tree during the harvest festivals.

When I said it was a country-club, I didn't mean a regular country club, but it is just a ritzy place for the rich to hang out and tout their successes. Yes, probably a lot of things occur that shouldn't, but I believe that is up to the individual member. I can join a country-club and choose to run with the crowd that sits in the bar and gets wasted every night--or play golf and get some exercise in the pool.

It IS what you make of it. Yes, maybe the major problem is vanity; but I'm certainly not going to judge Bush for every disgression he makes when I too am a sinner and if it wasn't for the blood of my savior, Jesus Christ, God's Son, then I would be convicted to hell also.

The bottom line is that Bush generally votes the proper way (pro-life, etc.). Do we wish to bash him for belonging to a secret club--which all we know about is conspiracy theory, or would we rather put a president in office who supports freedom of choice on abortion.

 

[Ben W]

Which would be worse, Bush being a member of the Skull and Bones, or Bush being a Freemason?

 

[poncho]

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Phillip:

Originally posted by Speed Gracer:
[qb] The article

1941, hmmmmmm. Let me ask you if you use a Christmas tree, since it originated from pagans who sacrificed babies (particularly girls) on a tree during the harvest festivals.

When I said it was a country-club, I didn't mean a regular country club, but it is just a ritzy place for the rich to hang out and tout their successes. Yes, probably a lot of things occur that shouldn't, but I believe that is up to the individual member. I can join a country-club and choose to run with the crowd that sits in the bar and gets wasted every night--or play golf and get some exercise in the pool.

It IS what you make of it. Yes, maybe the major problem is vanity; but I'm certainly not going to judge Bush for every disgression he makes when I too am a sinner and if it wasn't for the blood of my savior, Jesus Christ, God's Son, then I would be convicted to hell also. </font>

Hey nobody is perfect Phillip. Even those guys out at the grove that dress up like dark lords and perform rituals at the foot of a forty foot tall Babylonian or Egyption deity in the middle of the woods every summer.

It's all in fun folks, don't worry the pyramid elite got a handle on it, it's being looked into, it's under control. If anyone tells you different...they are conspiracy theorists, how do I know?

Look at any of the pyramid elite owned mass media and what do they tell you? They tell you they don't dress up in long robes like dark lords and have rituals at the feet of ancient deities. It's those uncontrolable independent researchers and journalists that don't work for the consolidated conglomerate pyramid elite publications and cable companies you have to be wary of.

 

[poncho]

Originally posted by Ben W:
Which would be worse, Bush being a member of the Skull and Bones, or Bush being a Freemason?

Depends on which step in the pyramid power structure he has attained in either org I guess. Once you reach a certain point of enlightement you either dress up in dark robes and have rituals in Masonic halls, or you have them in the Tomb.

Then again there is this really serene patch of redwoods right close by Monte Rio California that you (as an elite) can have a relaxing (and secret) get together with all the world elite leaders. Long dark robes optional on how many points of light you've collected?

 

[Speed Gracer]

Which would be worse, Bush being a member of the Skull and Bones, or Bush being a Freemason?

No idea. They both have alot in commen.

 

[Speed Gracer]

would we rather put a president in office who supports freedom of choice on abortion.

The one who is pro-choice. That was easy.

 

[LadyEagle]

Originally posted by poncho:
The globalists love it when the Democrats and Republicans both crack up and live in denial.

The Republican says..."it's those Democrats that are ruining the country".

The Democrat says..."it's those Republicans that are ruining the country".

The globalist says..."We control both the D's and R's but go ahead keep bickering bewteen yourselves it only helps our cause...and brings us closer to one world (dictatorship) government". YEEEAAARRRGGGHHH!!!

Truer words were never spoken, poncho.

 

[church mouse guy]

Yes, the 2 parties are out to get all the 3rd parties and the meeting place is a 19th century organization for college boys at Yale University! And the goblins will get you if you don't watch out. By the way, it has been shown that both Bush and Kerry have donated to the Red Cross--are you sure that it is not the Red Cross that will take over the world?

 

[Brother James]

Originally posted by church mouse guy:
And since it was started in 1832 or something like that I have never heard anyone say this before either: "Skull and Bones founding father organaztion's most prominent members were Nazis."

I think that that statement goes to the leftist elements of the Democrat Party and their longstanding attempt to smear US Senator Prescott Bush of Connecticut--Prescott Bush being the grandfather of the now President Bush. I think that the reason we never heard those charges in the 1950s from the Democrats is that they ran the government during World War II and they know that it is false. Also, Democrats in those days had a better sense of fair play. After all, George Herbert Walker Bush was a combat pilot during World War II and flew many missions. By the way, the Walker is for the current President's grandmother, who was from the family that started the Walker Cup.

I think that the nazi stuff is way over the top and has no business on a Baptist Board. The Bush family were devout Episcopalians until Dubya, who became a Methodist. Nazis are anti-Christ.

My advice to the younger Democrats is to remember that your parents did not engage in this sort of false smear campaign, and they were eyewitnesses to the events.

Prescott Bush was a fine man. He authored the legislation that started the construction of the interstate highway system for Eisenhower, who saw how the German roads helped the movement of the German army during World War II.

There is hardly another family in America that has done more public service free of scandal than the Bush family has for the last 3 generations. They are hard-working, intelligent Protestants.

(It is hard not to compare them with the Kennedys, who made a lot of their money from the sale of alcohol and have had so many sex scandals that one has lost count.)

Hitler built nice highways.

 

[church mouse guy]

And Democrats drive on interstate highways, don't you, Brother James?

 

[LadyEagle]

I spoke with about 100 members of Skull and Bones and they were members who were tired of the secrecy, and that's why they were willing to talk to me,” says Robbins. “But probably twice that number hung up on me, harassed me, or threatened me.”

Secret or not, Skull and Bones is as essential to Yale as the Whiffenpoofs, the tables down at a pub called Mory's, and the Yale mascot - that ever-slobbering bulldog.

Skull and Bones, with all its ritual and macabre relics, was founded in 1832 as a new world version of secret student societies that were common in Germany at the time. Since then, it has chosen or "tapped" only 15 senior students a year who become patriarchs when they graduate -- lifetime members of the ultimate old boys' club.

“Skull and Bones is so tiny. That's what makes this staggering,” says Robbins. “There are only 15 people a year, which means there are about 800 living members at any one time.”

But a lot of Bonesmen have gone on to positions of great power, which Robbins says is the main purpose of this secret society: to get as many members as possible into positions of power.

“They do have many individuals in influential positions,” says Robbins. “And that's why this is something that we need to know about.”

President Bush has tapped five fellow Bonesmen to join his administration. Most recently, he selected William Donaldson, Skull and Bones 1953, the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Like the President, he's taken the Bones oath of silence.

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Despite a lifetime of attempts to get inside, the best Rosenbaum could do was hide out on the ledge of a nearby building a few years ago to videotape a nocturnal initiation ceremony in the Tomb's courtyard.

“A woman holds a knife and pretends to slash the throat of another person lying down before them, and there's screaming and yelling at the neophytes,” he says.

Robbins says the cast of the initiation ritual is right out of Harry Potter meets Dracula: “There is a devil, a Don Quixote and a Pope who has one foot sheathed in a white monogrammed slipper resting on a stone skull. The initiates are led into the room one at a time. And once an initiate is inside, the Bonesmen shriek at him. Finally, the Bonesman is shoved to his knees in front of Don Quixote as the shrieking crowd falls silent. And Don Quixote lifts his sword and taps the Bonesman on his left shoulder and says, ‘By order of our order, I dub thee knight of Euloga.’"

It’s a lot of mumbo-jumbo, says Robbins, but it means a lot to the people who are in it.

“Prescott Bush, George W's grandfather, and a band of Bonesmen, robbed the grave of Geronimo, took the skull and some personal relics of the Apache chief and brought them back to the tomb,” says Robbins. “There is still a glass case, Bonesmen tell me, within the tomb that displays a skull that they all refer to as Geronimo.”

“The preoccupation with bones, mortality, with coffins, lying in coffins, standing around coffins, all this sort of thing I think is designed to give them the sense that, and it's very true, life is short,” says Rosenbaum. “You can spend it, if you have a privileged background, enjoying yourself, contributing nothing, or you can spend it making a contribution.”

Source: CBS

Lots of pics & links here:

http://www.bilderberg.org/skulbone.htm#fleshing

Those who care enough to find out the truth can always Google - there's plenty out there.

For the first time in American history, two Skull & Bones members were candidates in the 2004 Presidential Election.

BTW, CMG, Al Gore's dad (Senior Senator Gore, Democrat, from Tennessee) is credited with the development of US Interstate Highway system.

 

[church mouse guy]

Yes, the Gore family invented the internet and perfected haywire, Lady Eagle. However, it was Johnny Carson who invented the pencil with an eraser on both ends.

 

[patrioticcamerican]

Hey, I read a book about the Bushes. For the most part it seemed to favor them, in fact it said that the author(s) had gotten exclusive interviews with their family, or something to that effect. Chapter 2 of the book was about the Bushes' connection with Skull and Bones. It said that no family had a bigger connection with them than the Bushes. And it described how they drink from skull-shaped cups, etc. It's not just a little club or anything. Look how many people leave it and go into power. Bush and Kerry both being involved in it just goes to show that both parties are going downhill at the top level, though there are good people at other levels, although I must say that most democrats seem to have fallen for big government, but then a lot of republicans have too. The book, by the way, was called The Bushes: Portrait of a Dynasty.

 

[Ben W]

I dont know a great deal about American history, yet isnt it quite common for most of the Presidents to have been Freemasons? In the film National Treasure it is said that all bar one of those that wrote your constitution? were Freemasons.

So how is the Skull and Bones society different to the masons? Would it matterto christians if he were say a member of the order of Elks?

 

[LadyEagle]

Would it matterto christians if he were say a member of the order of Elks?

Sadly, Christians in this country don't seem to care about anything other than if the candidate says they are "born again." Nothing else seems to matter, the evangelicals will fall in lock step like gaggles of geese.

I look for both presidential candidates in the next election to claim to be "born again" because they all know that's a phrase guaranteed to bring out evangelical voters.

I can see how easily the AC will rise to power, btw. Itching ears.

 

[church mouse guy]

I think where the hangup is is that a lot of important people either go to Yale or Harvard. If you are a blue-blood and an ivy leaguer, you have doors opened for you right away. Skull and Bones is unimportant if you put them on some campus in Podunk, Iowa. It is just a silly organization for rich people who summer in Newport, etc. The east coast has dominated American society for many years because of the concentration of wealth among New England aristocrats. I don't think that you necessarily get a better education at the Ivy League schools but you almost have to be rich in order to go to them.

I think that we need to be concerned about more than some rich-kid fraternity boy stuff.

As for the Masonic Lodge, there are a lot of people who belong to the lower orders who have no idea what the upper orders are all about. Here in Indianapolis, the Masonic Lodge is segregated.