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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by revmwc, May 9, 2015.

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  1. Earth Wind and Fire

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    What do you consider a good one, one full of exuberant dispys? .....ah, no thanks! If necessary, perhaps a good Presbyterian Church or Reformed Baptist Church......but an independent Dispy church :rolleyes:....I will pass, thank you. But I am looking to establish a Great Mainstream Primitive Baptist church in Northern NJ....that would be paramount!!!:thumbs:
     
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    Define reformed. I asked that on another thread and received this definition, "Catholicism without a Pope." So is that your definition of Reformed?
     
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    Who gave the definition? DC?
     
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    No it was beameup.
     
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    That has nothing to do with the question I asked:

     
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    If you answer my question you would have your answer.

    Who received the payment for mankind's sin when Jesus blood paid for them?
     
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    Can someone else answer this question since OR doesn't seem to know who received the payment for mankind's sin?

    We as believers receive the benefit of the payment but who required the payment for that sin?

    Evidently OR doesn't know about Christ blood becoming the Propitiation or satisfaction of man's sin death.
     
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    A church that stresses DoG as the Salvation doctrinal theme.
     
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    forgive me but what is DoG? I know what a dog is but those appear to be intials for something and I may have read it but can't remember what it means.
     
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    I always took it to be the shorthand method of writing "Calvinism."
     
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    Would you mind answering my question in post 127, since OR doesn't seem to know the answer!
     
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    No sweat.....'Doctrines of Grace' or also known as 'Sovereign Election and Grace'
     
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    those who believe God isn't omniscient enough to foreknow who would choose to accept Christ and who would choose to reject Christ and therefore predestine the ones He knew would make the choice for Christ to be adopted.

    You mean that Sovereign election teaching?
     
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    Don't go telling that to a Primitive Baptist......in fact, since I don't follow Calvin in his sacramental ways & Paedo baptism, I don't consider myself a Calvinist either. Much to Convicted's disappointment.:smilewinkgrin:
     
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    No, the one that believes that God is totally Sovereign in all things & that He provides Saving Grace to His Elect so that they will be saved for eternity......No getting sucked up into the stratosphere or being left behind.....That Sovereign Election teaching.

    To help you out in understanding, review Peleganism and when you get a grip on it then reverse it, then you would come close. :D
     
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    I believe God is the Soveriegn of the universe nothing happens that He doesn't know about or allow. He allowed Job to be tried by Satan, He allowed Peter to be sifted by satan as well as the other disciples. But He also gave may volition to make a conscious decision about many things. We use that volition every single day. We decide to give in to temptation or follow after God, He gave man the ability to choose to believe on Christ or to reject Christ. He knew who would and who wouldn't believe and therefore by His foreknowledge He predestined those whom He Foreknew would believe.

    He also foreknew that Israel would reject Christ and made plans for the church to come into existence.

    He is an Omniscient God who knows all and allows what He will because He is Sovereign.
     
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    Right...so you believe church to be only an after thought. So why wouldn't the Jews just matriculate into the Church? Are they special...do they have holy DNA?
     
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    Ahhhh haaaaa:laugh:

    Well he is a piker...we can add that to his resume.
     
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    1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
    1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

    As not to seem unbiased, A.T. Robertson says about this verse:
    I like the way he put that:
    "The propitiation by Christ provides for salvation for all (Heb_2:9) if they will only be reconciled with God."

    Propitiation means satisfaction in a legal sense. Christ legally satisfied the demands of God with his shed blood that provision of salvation for all had been made.
    God received the payment. God's demands were met.
     
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    I know that claiming the GRRReAAt Seven Year Tribulation is payment for the redemption of the earth is utter nonsense, but that is usual with pre-trib-"snatching away"-of the-Church-dispensationalism.

    Now if you could name who the recipient of the payment is, but you won't because you know it will be more nonsense!
     
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