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Featured THE DEVIL IS THE RULER OF THE WORLD.

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  1. Alex2165

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    Luke 4.5-6
    5.And he led Him up and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

    6.And the Devil said to Him, "I will give You all this domain and its glory, it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.


    Why is it happened? Why Devil became the ruler of this world? GOD created Earth and the universe for mankind, but the Devil took the power to rule.

    I think it is happened from the very beginning, from Adam and Eve. At first it seems that GOD was in charge and He gave order to Adam and Eve not to eat from the Tree of knowledge. So under guidance and rule of GOD the life on Earth took its course, if only Adam and Eve will be obedient to the Lord.

    When Devil came to a scene and deceit first humans, the order of the world changed in favor of Devil. Because Adam and Eve disobeyed GOD'S Command and took advise of the Devil, and since this moment the power to rule was handed to Devil, because they obeyed him and not the Lord, and the Devil became the ruler of the world.

    But to deceit and to tempt Jesus Christ, this requires a different tactic. To tempt Jesus with the same thing as he tempted Adam and Eve, certainly would not work. So, Devil devised a different plan for Christ to lure and tempt Him by the kingship of the world.

    But here is a trick, if Jesus accepted Devil's proposal, the true ruler of the world still will be the Devil, because Jesus must bow ("worship" in some Bibles) to him which is a sign of full submission. So, Jesus will be secondary to Satan and the Satan still will be unchallenged ruler.

    Of course, for Jesus such proposal of Satan does not make any sense because Jesus is the true Ruler of the world, and everything, the Earth and the universe belong only to Him, why He would bow to Satan? It just is not His time to rule the world physically, but it will come in appropriate time.

    That was desperate attempt of Satan to turn around the upcoming change in the world that Jesus will bring and the leadership of the world by the Satan is now under threat by Jesus Christ.

    Indeed, Jesus Christ divided the world on two sides, one side of GOD and the other of Devil. So Devil lost a lot due to Christ, but he still rules his side of the world until his time expires.

    The fight between Satan and Christ is for the souls of human beings. Satan tried to destroy as many souls as possible with his Satanism, which we are all witnessing today, and we see how our basic morality and the rule of law are degrading and the country and the rest of the world turning to a pure Satanic society.

    But on the side of Jesus, the true Christian resist Satanism in all its forms, and not as much as to save the country, which is already cross the point of no return, but to save their own souls in order to inherit the Earth with Jesus then He will come a second time.

    Today's events play out in both ways. Repugnant Satanism turns more people to GOD, who are trying to find the exist to escape madness, and to find peace and place for their souls from demonic insanity of the liberal anarchy.

    But today's anarchy also attracted certain people to join the Satanism and serve the current ruler of the world, because of great benefits, power, and enrichment.

    Indeed, the world was given to Satan from the beginning of time and he can give it to whomever he wish and he does so. All who join and embrace today's Satanism is in charge of the world and the Satan gives them the power to rule.

    The forces opposing the Satan are losing the battle as predicted in the prophecies of the Bible and no one is able withstand the onslaught of today's immorality, bloodshed, deceit, and constant lies of Satanism.

    But true Christians know that this is the beginning of the end. Paradoxically in this case, even the end has its beginning, but the difference here is this that eventually this beginning of Satanism will come to its end and will never rise again, it will be gone forever.
     
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    II Cor 4:4
    In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
     
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    because we have not the wrestling with blood and flesh, but with the principalities, with the authorities, with the world-rulers of the darkness of this age, with the spiritual things of the evil in the heavenly places; Eph 6:12
    in whom the god of this age did blind the minds of the unbelieving, that there doth not shine forth to them the enlightening of the good news of the glory of the Christ, who is the image of God; 2 Cor 4:4 YLT

    From 2 Cor 4:6 literal That the God, the one saying, "Out of Darkness, Light to shine

    It appears to me the god and the darkness of this age and the spiritual evil were present in Genesis 1:2 therefore God laid down the foundation of the world [Kosmos] culminating in creation of man, male and female in his own image for marriage of this age [ see Luke 20:35 ] resulting in the virgin bringing forth; for the enlightening of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. the Christ, who is the image of God V 4

    It appears to me the plan before the foundation of the world was to destroy the god of the darkness of this age through the flesh and blood Son of God, the Christ, who is the Light of the image of God..
     
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    God is, always was, and always will be the ruler of His creation. Satan only does what God allows him to do.

    *Revelation 13:5-8,13-15*
    And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain. It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain.
     
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    "It appears to me the plan before the foundation of the world was to destroy the god of the darkness of this age through the flesh and blood Son of God, the Christ, who is the Light of the image of God."

    Yes, GOD does not terminated Satan before He created entire physical world, because Satan has his following also and many angels failed and took side of the Satan.

    Jude 1.6
    6.And the angels who did not kept their own position but left their proper dwelling, He has kept in eternal chains, in deepest darkness for the judgment of the Great Day.

    Now GOD want to see how many humans will fail Him and take side of the Satan.

    The Earth will be the final fight for the souls and eventually as you mentioned it will be the last stand of the Satan, he will be destroyed together with his followers.
     
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    The devil is a liar and murderer from the beginning. Just because he said it, doesn’t mean it’s true.

    As AustinC mentioned, he can only do what God allows.

    peace to you
     
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    A woman shared candidly in a news interview in England, and say it's hard of living in this current time in Europe, and listed several events of the current environment that cause great suferrings.
    She said: "In the UK and around Europe we’ve experienced many knock-on effects", and listed:
    - from the coronavirus pandemic:
    - rising gas prices,
    - higher bills,
    - food and fuel shortages,
    - lower immunity for winter colds and viruses,
    - and so on. She said more: "Our LIST of worries, it seems, isn’t going to decrease any time soon".
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    LIST OF EVENTS OF THE LAST DAY / LAST MILLENNIUM

    JESUS revealed what would go to happen in these days of Apocalypse, and LISTED some events to be fullfiled in this current time in whole world, these after the Temple of Jerusalem be destroyed, what really happended in the year 70AD.

    Having the disciples asked JESUS :
    1 - what would be the signs of the END of the world;
    2 - and the signs of His COMING;

    so JESUS listed the follow happenings as the beginning of sorrows, as follows:

    - 1- Appearance and manifestation of false Christs/messiah ;
    - 2- Wars and rumours of war ;
    - 3- nation shall rise against nation ;
    - 4- and kingdom against kingdom; (Kingdom of GOD X Kingdom of Devil - Revelation 11:15 and 12:7-12- Take a look.) ;
    - 5- famines ;
    - 6- pestilences ; and
    - 7- earthquakes in divers places.
    - 8- all these are the beginning of sorrows.

    JESUS warned. Take heed that no man deceive you. (this was the first concerns of JESUS). It seems that many have not kept this warning of JESUS and are being deceived by false and devilish theories and false interpretations of the Word of GOD spread in the world, mainly through internet. Check it in 2Corinthians 11:13-15.

    It is necessary to seek discernment of spirit, as says the Word of GOD. "Believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of GOD: because many false prophets (false preachers of the Word of GOD-the TAIL of the red Dragon-Isaiah 9:15-16) are gone out into the world.

    And in addition to the false preachers of the Word of GOD, an esoteric and kabbalistic and SPIRITIST false messiah will also manifest itself-Revelation 13:11-14 - , perhaps in this current or next year, and will easily deceive the world through his great signs of lies.

    Be careful or then get ready
    GET READY. THE 5th UNIVERSAL AND SATANIC KINGDOM, THE ANTICHRIST's KINGDOM, IT WILL BE ESTABLISHED IN THE EARTH FROM NOW ON - Daniel 2:v.41-45 | Pure Bible Forum (and see www.sinaiticus.net )
     
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    More than opinion is revelation. Matthew 24 has been LITERALLY fulfilled. In the year 70AD, verses 1 and 2 were fulfilled with the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem and the dispersion of the Jews throughout the world during 1878 years of severe plagues and curses, in addition to insufferable pain, according to Deuteronomy 28:15-68, 53 verses of strong punishments.

    Now verses 3 to 8 are being fulfilled, the beginning of sorrows, and the decay of the Churches with the development of apostasies and iniquities-verses 9 to 14. Then, the last week-Daniel 9:27- is about to start and with this event the persecutions of the first half of the week-42 months-Revelation 13:5-, culminating with the establishment of the Abomination of Desolation for 1,290 days in the second half of the week (plus 30 days)-verses 15 to 27 combined with Daniel 12:11 and 11:31. It is the END of this world and a sign of the coming of JESUS: Matthew 24:3. Blessed is he who waits and comes at 1335 days, 45 days after finishing the Abomination of Desolation. Get ready;
     
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    "Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord and against his Anointed, saying, “Let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us.” He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision. Then he will speak to them in his wrath, and terrify them in his fury, saying, “As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill.” I will tell of the decree: The Lord said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you. Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage, and the ends of the earth your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.” Now therefore, O kings, be wise; be warned, O rulers of the earth. Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, for his wrath is quickly kindled. Blessed are all who take refuge in him."
    - Psalm 2:1-12
     
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    What Bible are YOU reading?... God rules and super rules... If he wasn't ruling now, we would really be in a fix... Brother Glen:)

    Daniel 2: 20 Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:

    21 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

    22 He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.
     
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    It is impressive that the Scriptures you quoted(Psalm 2) was written around 3000 years ago, but its LITERAL fulfillment is now, even now, from now on. Revelation 19:19-21:

    19 And I saw the Beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make WAR against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

    20 And the Beast was(will be) taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the Beast(Revelation 13:11-18), and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    21 And the remnant were(will be) slain with the Sword of him(Revelation 13:3 and 14, take a look) that sat upon the horse, which Sword(Hebrews 4:12-13) proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

    Matthew 25:31-34 and 41&46
    31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

    32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

    33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

    34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:


    41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
    46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

    Revelation 6:15-17
    15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

    16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

    17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?


    Remember: The Word is GOD, self-executable, from everlasting to everlasting, understand? JESUS said: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away - Matthew 25:35

    God bless
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    2 Corinthians 2:5-7
    Your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of GOD.

    6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

    7 But we speak the wisdom of GOD in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which GOD ordained before the world unto our glory:



    Revelation 6:14-16
    14 And the heaven departed as a scroll (the Dispensation of the New Testament-2Peter 3:7) when it is rolled together (together with the Old Testament); and every mountain and island (all kind of social and religious structures) were moved out of their places.

    15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

    16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:


    1 Corinthians 2:4-7
    4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

    5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of GOD.

    6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

    7 But we speak the wisdom of GOD in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which GOD ordained before the world unto our glory.
     
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    A word search of the phrase 'God of Israel' reveals it to be on 131 pages of the OT often multiple times on each page. Example:

    7 And when the men of Ashdod saw that it was so, they said, The ark of the God of Israel shall not abide with us; for his hand is sore upon us, and upon Dagon our god.
    8 They sent therefore and gathered all the lords of the Philistines unto them, and said, What shall we do with the ark of the God of Israel? And they answered, Let the ark of the God of Israel be carried about unto Gath. And they carried the ark of the God of Israel thither.
    9 And it was so, that, after they had carried it about, the hand of Jehovah was against the city with a very great discomfiture: and he smote the men of the city, both small and great; and tumors brake out upon them.
    10 So they sent the ark of God to Ekron. And it came to pass, as the ark of God came to Ekron, that the Ekronites cried out, saying, They have brought about the ark of the God of Israel to us, to slay us and our people.
    11 They sent therefore and gathered together all the lords of the Philistines, and they said, Send away the ark of the God of Israel, and let it go again to its own place, that is slay us not, and our people. For there was a deadly discomfiture throughout all the city; the hand of God was very heavy there. 1 Sam 5

    I must conclude though, that at some point (probably during the 400-year Inter-Testamental period) the Old Covenant 'arrangement' (read 'world') was handed over to Satan, perhaps in order to bring about the crucifixion would be my guess. The type supports this:

    8 Now there arose a new king over Egypt, who knew not Joseph. Ex 1

    ...but, post-resurrection:

    18 And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth. Mt 28
     
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    Thank you for adding more to what I already said... Brother Glen:)
     
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    You opened this thread "the Devil is the ruler OF THE (THIS) WORLD", but now, even now, from now on, there will be WAR against three unclean spirits like frogs-Revelation 16:13-15. (A satanic trinity. Why frogs?)

    Revelation 11:15-18NKJV
    15 - ... “The [f]kingdoms OF THIS WORLD have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!”-
    ...

    THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS?

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    Go out in Jesus Name | Baptist Christian Forums (baptistboard.com)
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    Hello brothers in Christ

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    just to remember :

    NATION shall rise against NATION ... G7 will be DISSOLVED? | Baptist Christian Forums (baptistboard.com)
    mainly the messages posted 1 and 58 and 74 among several others.

    Get ready, yes, get ready

    Our GOD in in control of history, nothing random happens.

    Remember: Our GOD rests of His works in this seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium after Adam. By the way, GOD sent JESUS - the Word made flesh(John 1:14), He is the true God, and eternal life, and we know that the Son of GOD came (IN THE FOURTH DAY-John 5:17, take a look, or around 4000 years after Adam, even around 2000 years ago), and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is True, and we are in Him that is True, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and Eternal life.

    Our Lord JESUS said: All Power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Our Lord JESUS will exert all His Power from this beginning of this seventh and final millennium to destroy the works of the Devil, to destroy the Devil's WORLD with all kinds of structures, religious, and economic, social, military, amaong other systems of satanic organizations. By the way, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever-Revelation 11:15-18. Take a look.

    One of the 7 heads of the MAN Beast of sea will be wounded to death;but his deadly wound will be healed (but how? well, the dragon(Rev.13:11will give to the MAN Beas of sea his Power, and his Seat (in Jerusalem), and great Authority-Rev.13:2. ) and all the world will wonder after the MAN Beast of sea.

    Be careful and get ready

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    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - THE RED SEA AND THE RED DRAGON ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I believe you know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea, and walk through a desert 40 years, walk til they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of peregrination / pilgrimage. What about GOD's people now or in this current time?

    Now GOD's people will have to go through (I mean win a WAR) against the Red Dragon, that's exactly it, a Red Dragon yes, this is not coincidence, it was predicted millennia ago. He's a false messiah who will soon manifest himself just ahead, with great signs of lying, he will manifest in Israel as a lamb with two horns(two kingdoms), he's a Jew, of course, and he'll speak like a Dragon. Revelation 12.v.3 to 17 and Revelation 13:v. 11 to 18.

    Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious, marvelous, and day of exceedingly joy - the day 1335. Amen.
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    From the OP.
    When we read these words we must first acknowledge that Satan is a liar. Whenever he speaks, he is deceitful.
    We see in Job 1 and Job 2 that Satan can only do what God allows him to do.
    Second, at the cross, Satan was defeated. He was bound and restricted so that he could not destroy the seed of the growing Church. The only thing he could do was plant tares among the wheat, but he is not given the authority to wipe out all the wheat.

    Therefore, understand the lie that Satan told us in what he said, as shared in Luke 4.
     
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    1 John 3:8, ". . . For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. . . ."
    Well? The Devil's end is stated to be done in per Revelation 20:10, ". . . And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. . . ."
     
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