Featured The Equality of Jesus to The Father

I don't think MB's argument was about power or nature. I could be wrong; I'll find out when I read further. But I think the argument is about rank. And there is rank in the Godhead.

 

Subordinate as a son is to a Father . . . until the time appointed. All power and authority was given to the Son as a result of His work of Redemption. And so one can rightly say that Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father as equal in authority with a name above every name, but as the begotten Son, the Father is greater. One is the begetter, and one is begotten, and this has nothing to do with the Incarnation. Neither does it mean that the Son had a beginning. Neither does it mean of less in power or nature. But it does have to do with relationship in the Godhead.

 

When a man and woman become "one flesh," does that mean the same person?

 

Of course. Jesus's Hebrew name was Joshua, meaning "Yahweh saves."

But LORD, is a name for God, like Elohim, not the name of one Person. Elohim is used primarily in the Scriptures to denote God's covenant nature, being the plural of elowahh, the root of which is ALH, meaning "to swear,"

LORD is primarily used for God as a lawgiver. We see Elohim in Genesis one, when man is created in His image, a plurality of persons that are one flesh, and that stand in covenant. And we see the LORD God in Genesis 2 when man and woman are placed in the Garden with a "Thou shalt not ... " They are given a law.

But it sounds like you think YHWH is in reference to one Person, and not the one God.

Is your question, do you believe that Jesus Christ is the Father? And that the Spirit is the Father? Or vice versa?

As written, it sounds like you're asking, Is Jesus 100% the Trinity? How would you answer that?

 

I believe that scripture tells us that when man and woman come together they become one flesh. Yet each have there own spirit. Because when one dies the living can marry again and be one flesh again with another..
The Bible says;
Mat_19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
But it also says;
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1Co_6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
Think about being one flesh with a harlot. Seem we are one flesh with anyone we have sex relations with.
MB

 

Only begotten may not be a valid expression though, as the 3 persons of God are all equally eternal and God!

 

All 3 are equally Yahweh, and yet just One Yahweh!

 

"Only begotten" has nothing to do with the Incarnation!

The Son proceeds from the Father eternally!

 

Answer the question that is being posed!

Is Jesus Christ 100% the Father, Son and Holy Ghost?!

 

So being one doesn't mean not being separate and distinct person's.

So when the Son said He and the Father are one, He wasn't saying He was the Father and the Father was Him.

 

No. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the LORD [Yahweh] God. The Son proceeding from the Father is the incarnation, John 17:3, Luke 1:35.

 

Yes They are one. You are comparing God to man and there is no comparison. I can only go by scripture there isn't anything else.but the opinions of men.
MB

 

It's funny that we both say we're only going by Scripture. I get to appeal to mystery too: begotten, yet no beginning.

 

Agreed.

I disagree. Yes, he was sent, but that's not what I meant by proceeding. Just to be clear about what you believe, He was never not the Son, Correct?

 

No, as that would be Oneness heresy!

 

All 3 Persons are Yahweh!

 

Jesus was and is eternally God Himself. correct?

 

Jesus and the father are not same person, correct?

 

Think all 3 Persons are eternally God and self existing!