Which is more important, the will of the Tea Party or the will of the people?
The GOP's rude awakening on health-care repeal
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Jan 21, 2011.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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So Republicans should concern themselves more with the Demoncrats that voted for Obama Healthscare than with the voters who put them in office?
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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As the Republicans now put forward bills to create jobs and improve the economy we will get to see that it is really the Demoncrats who are the "party of no".
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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First let me say that i am not a tea party supporter, nor dissenter I am independent, not an independent, just independent. The OP is somewhat miss-leading. First the main point of the tea party is not the health care law. The main thing is the debt and the government stripping away of the peoples rights and freedoms. Yes the tea party sees that the health care law will raise the debt and there are some provisions in the bill they are against, but the health care law is not their main agenda.
That being said the problem here in regards with the two parties is not about one over the other. It is about Washington getting themselves back to doing the business of the people and not their back door deals with self promoting agenda that is bankrupting this nation.
The last election results was in the hopes that the republicans would get the message and because of that message the democrats would also see the light. Neither happened. What the republicans did was play the we hear you card and all the while were deaf and blind to the real message. Their only agenda was to get elected back to power.
The republicans new that they had no possible way to override the health care bill even though they said they would. The vote on the bill is a totally sham. The next thing on the republican agenda is to claim that they need more seats in the next election with a republican President. What we are seeing is Washington at its best. Lying to the people and covering their own failures, passing their failures onto the people with higher taxes which will have to come along with some serious cuts.
We are 14 plus trillion in debt. One trillion is a million dollars a day every day for 2739 years. We are 14 times that in debt. That debt is growing at the rate of about 4 plus billion a day. That is 4 thousand million a day or 4 thousand one million dollar bills a day deeper in debt. We have to borrow about 25% of every dollar we spend to cover the checks written by the government and this is increasing. Social Security would be solvent if the government had not took the money and spent it replacing it with IOU's. There is now 2.5 trillion dollars of IOU's in the Social security fund tied up in bonds. Figure that one out. The Social security system is earning interest off this fraudulent bond fund that is actually IOU's or money that does not exist and paid for by the government who does not have the money, so the money is borrowed to pay the interest on money that is not really there. :eek: So what we have is no money earning interest and the interest is being paid to the social security who is in the red because the government took their money to cover other debts, but that money which is interest on an IOU that is given to Social Security has to be bowered because the government is broke and in turn increases the debt even more. And they prosecuted Bernard Madoff ?!
Believe me the next election will be critical if this nation is to survive. -
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Unfortunately for him a poll was taken last November that didn't turn out to his liking.
Namely - the elections. -
I'm not so sure about the AP poll, coming out just days before the vote. Thought this was a good article about the different polls concerning American's feelings on repealing Obamacare.
Polls Apart
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/560159/201101181901/Polls-Apart.htm -
JohnDeereFan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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just-want-peace Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
'Course the Obama monstrosity will not be repealed - not with the Ds holding the senate and KNOWING that the ZERO will veto; SHOULD IT PASS THE SENATE. BUT, BUT, it will be on record (unless, as I've heard, that Reid will not let it come up for a vote -surprise, surprise!!) as to what rep/sen voted how.
That will be useful info come the '12 elections.
Now if the public is lulled back into a stupor as in the '08 race, then all bets are off - we've been had!!!! -
I guess I could ask Crabby some questions about the dishonest, corrupt, and unaffordable aspects of Obamacare....
But first, he won't answer them; second, he'll assign homework...and I don't feel like reading the garbage he wants me to read. I'm not a big fan of fiction. -
We have heard by the libs that Obamacare might need some tuning up - some changes could be made.
So let me use this analogy
Crabby, three others and I jointly buy a used car for $1,200- not a bad price - but the seller insisted that we buy it immediately - or it may not be available. I ask to check it out - but Crabby says, we have to buy it to see how it runs. Lets face it is a great car - has a super CD-FM/AM Stereo system, great hubcaps and two-tone paint job. On the way home, Crabby is driving the car and admits it needs a little work. I have my friend Larry the mechanic check it out. Engine needs to be rebuilt, timing belt is extremely frayed, brakes are bad, muffler is falling off, 4 of the 5 tires are bald...
Yes, we could chip away at it fix all that it needs, but it would cost $15,000 to repair.
Or we could sell it for $500 (loose $700) and buy the car I had insisted on -the wagon that had 21,00 miles for $10,000 - and the 100,000 mile warranty would still be valid
The four of us are evenly divided 2-2 - so Crabby, you are the deciding vote.......
So Crab - what is your choice - "fine tune' the piece of junk we have" or scrap and start from scratch with a decent vehicle. -
As an additional penalty for having more money you should also be required to buy new bicycles for the other four guys kids to boot - you greedy blood sucker! -
Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Application - very accurate example
Salty
PS
bus = Medicaid :smilewinkgrin:
pps and the govt will give you a free taxi ride to the bus stop :tear:
ppps, I suppose that Rbell is right (post 14 - last paragraph - first sentence) -
Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I believe the GOP house members knew when they voted that is was for politics only. They were simply playing to some of their voters. Now they can say, "Hey, we tried."
There is no way this will be signed into law. In fact, it most likely will never be brought up, even in committee in the senate. -
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