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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Salty, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. Salty

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    Was the Flood world wide or just regional ?
    If only regional - to what extent.

    What do you base your answer on?

    Open for discussion
     
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    Behold, I, even I am bringing the flood of water upon the earth, to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life, from under heaven; everything that is on the earth shall perish.

    Whole world, everything perished.
     
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    Do you think that people were living in the Americas at the time?
     
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    Worldwide.
    The Bible.
     
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    I don't think the continents had divided.
     
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    World wide. If local it would have to be an egg-shaped flood.

    There were probably no deep oceans yet. Rivers and Seas were probably pretty shallow compared to now (the present depth of the oceans is probably due to the breaking up of crust by the fountains of the deep).
     
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    I agree, but neither did the oceans exist then.

    The pre-flood Earth probably looked something like this.

    A map (model) of the pre-flood Earth (blue = former seas; tan = formerly exposed landscapes; yellow = presently exposed landscapes) created by removing about 10,000 feet of water from Earth’s surface which had been contained in the vapor canopy (superatmospheric water) and the great deep (subterranean water).

    Three-color-ArcGIS-produced-map-of-pre-flood-Earth.jpg
     
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    Interesting....
     
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    I don't know, Job 38 basically affirms I will probable never know in this lifetime, and probable not care in the next.
     
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    It would appear that there was one landmass surrounded by sea. Until:
    • Genesis10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
     
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    It would appear that there was one landmass surrounded by sea.
    I agree.
     
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    The English word flood doesn't mean that everything is covered over.

    For example: "The water heater broke and flooded the house." That doesn't mean the whole house was under water.

    Does anyone know if the Hebrew supports a total covering of everything, or just the death of everything?
     
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    I do not think the Bible tells us what happened in the "unknown" world beyond the knowledge of the initial audience. However, it seems clear that the known inhabited areas (where humans lived) were flooded such that everyone other than (Noah and his family) were destroyed.
     
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    Yeah, but the Bible says this.......

    Gen 7:20
    Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
     
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    That is about the earth being "divided" among the nations. "real estate"; not geology.
     
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    Exactly. That is why that part of the bible is called "The Table of Nations" and not "The Table of Continents." :)
     
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    IMO, in Job 38 verse 4, the reason Job could not "declare" and had no "understanding", is because the Word of God was not complete. We now know that the "cornerstone" is Jesus Christ and will be "laid" in "Zion" in the FUTURE. From God's perspective, God had already laid the "foundations of the earth" in "Zion" and brother Job, being one of those "all the sons of God" "shouting for joy" was already there.
    If Job had known the correct answer to the question "where wast thou?" He would have said "I was there with Jesus".

    HAD the answer to Job 38:4 " been "I wasn't born yet", that would have taken no "understanding". Sorry, I know, off topic. :)
     
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    Now if I took the plain statement of that translation it would be a problem. Because a typical preteen is going to conceptualize quite differently using that rendering.

    One cubit about 18 inches? Doing some fourth grade math 18" X 15 = 270 inches

    270 cubits divided by 12 = 22.5 feet.

    So, that is about the height of a two story building.

    So that translation must have had awful short mountains.
    :)

    A better translation:
    19The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered. 20The water prevailed fifteen cubits higher, and the mountains were covered.​

    Actually, the water was ABOVE the mountains about 22.5 feet. That presents problems with even the best swimmers after a couple weeks.


    Got to give the children an accurate picture of not only the height of the waters but the atmospheric changes as the result of the air being pushed up above the mountains, also, showing a real life example of the great preservation of God.

    God, did not place Noah in an air starved from an oxygen deprived environment, but as the waters ascended, the air was pushed up, too.
     
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    That may be your view but it is not mine. not mine.

    Some say it was referring to Babel. but I should thing that would have said that the world was divided not the earth.
     
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    The Hebrew word is הארץ (eretz) which is most often translated as "the land of" or "the country of."
     
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