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    THE WAR OF GOG AND MAGOG IS AT HAND!
    All events for these end of days coincide with our Mother fulfilling her work in the Elect.
    We fully being Christ like. This is the bringing forth in our souls, "The Male Child" who was caught up to God's throne. Since
    He was already caught up as the prophecy says , then for sure this is a bringing forth as I said , in the soul. This
    is done with our Mother through the umbilical cord of our faith some denominations have been given some very
    Precious Gems. Though the dragon stands ever before her, to devour her Child, she prevails and accomplishes
    what is purposed by God. What I am presenting is for now. This is a war= part of first WOE Rev.12:12. Ezekiel
    38-39. Rosh="HEAD" is who will receive a blow and give a blow to the other nations involved in this war.Rosh is the HEAD of the bone nations .(The ROTHSCHILD dynasty) is provoking it though.
    "GOG"
    meaning: Enemies of God's people, and rules "MAGOG"= lands ruled by satan. We are given a description of
    who these will be. "MESHECH"= long or tall and are drawn out by force ( The throne of satan will draw out long standing nations concerning their existence) .

    They are who are "TUBAL"= forgers of all implements of bronze and iron. I have researched this and bronze and iron were developed in earlier
    times, and the metals were harvested from the Korean Peninsula which was part of Chins at one time. Japan did much trade with them. Search (Heritage of Japan) iron and bronze
    implements. So, this is the nation of people known for this (There history is a long ancient one). They will carry out=be drawn out by force!
    Satan wants to bring about this war, because it will herald in his anointed one who is to arrive on the scene during a time of distress.

    "TOGARMAH MEANS: they are that which is all bone= have no sub-
    stance= no faith in the God of Israel, OUR GOD! These are communist nations and Islamic nations.
    Now we have to look at "ROSH" because this is who actually
    is the head of the weapons used by China and all the other enemies of God in Asia and the middle east. These nations who will take part in this war which is instigated by the THRONE Of satan, are of bronze and
    iron implements. "MESHECH" meaning: long or tall- concerning their history and establishment as a people.
    Not like America. ROSH, the head is RUSSIA, that the throne of satan will bring into the war. The clue is in Ezekiel 38:5-6: 5 Persia, Ethiopia and Libya with
    them; all of them with shield and helmet: These all have an alliance with Russia. Therefore, military weapons comes from Russia=gets weapons. North Korea does too. All these nations are Islamic or atheist.
    Hence of bone nations= NO FAITH IN OUR GOD. "GOMER" meaning: (COMPLETION), these nations complete the
    BONE NATIONS.

    Other bone nations will take Russia and China's side as the war progresses. Because Russia has the Bone nations in prophecy. These do not support Christian ideology. We know the ancient Persian empire then and today consist of: Eight nations which have
    coasts along the Persian Gulf: Baharin, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab
    Emirates. The gulfs strategic location has made an ideal place for human development over time. Today, many
    major cities of the Middle east are located in this region. Turkey, (Syria is out of the game basically.It was destroyed because of its long standing Christian community) Egypt will play a role in this war
    too. China is being provoked as well as Russia by the Edom Zionist Jews who run the world,America is part of the mystery Babylon. Russia will spread her errors and many nations will be destroyed! This war will not only affect Israel due to the Islamic Bone nations but , America will be targeted by Russia . China will have a vast army and will be that which is mentioned in prophecy " a nation with a strange tongue shall over take you". WAR IS COMING!

    Ezekiel38:6 GOMER, all his bands; the house of TOGARMAH of the north quarters, and all his bands: and
    many people with thee.

    Yeshua was not over stating when He said the end time tribulation will be the worst
    time that has ever been since the existence of the world. PRAY, MEDITATE on the life of Christ. God Bless!

    Continued..........
     
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    SENTENCE AGAINST THE DESTROYER AND THOSE WITH HIM AND THE TWO WITNESSES ARE IN THIS PART OF ISAIAH PROPHECY.
    Isaiah 33:
    The LORD Is Exalted

    1Woe to you, O destroyer never destroyed,

    O traitor never betrayed!

    When you have finished destroying,

    you will be destroyed.

    When you have finished betraying,

    you will be betrayed.

    2O LORD, be gracious to us!

    We wait for You.

    Be our strength every morning

    and our salvation in time of trouble.

    3The peoples flee the thunder of Your voice;

    the nations scatter when You rise.

    4Your spoil, O nations, will be gathered as by locusts;

    like a swarm of locusts men will pounce on it.

    5The LORD is exalted, for He dwells on high;

    He has filled Zion with justice and righteousness.

    6He will be the sure foundation for your times,

    a storehouse of salvation, wisdom, and knowledge.

    The fear of the LORD is Zion’s treasure.

    7Behold! Their warriors cry aloud in the streets;

    the envoys of peace weep bitterly.(THE TWO PROPHETS)

    8The highways are deserted;

    travel has ceased.

    The treaty has been broken,

    the (witnesses) are despised,

    and human life is disregarded.

    9The land mourns and languishes;

    Lebanon is ashamed and decayed.

    Sharon is like a desert;

    Bashan and Carmel shake off their leaves.

    10“Now I will arise,”

    says the LORD.

    “Now I will lift Myself up.

    Now I will be exalted.

    11You conceive chaff; you give birth to stubble.

    Your breath is a fire that will consume you.

    12The peoples will be burned to ashes,

    like thorns cut down and set ablaze.

    13You who are far off, hear what I have done;

    you who are near, acknowledge My might.”

    14The sinners in Zion are afraid;

    trembling grips the ungodly:

    “Who of us can dwell with a consuming fire?

    Who of us can dwell with everlasting flames?”

    15He who walks righteously

    and speaks with sincerity,

    who refuses gain from extortion,

    whose hand never takes a bribe,

    who stops his ears against murderous plots

    and shuts his eyes tightly against evil—

    16he will dwell on the heights;

    his refuge will be the mountain fortress;

    his food will be provided

    and his water assured.

    17Your eyes will see the King in His beauty

    and behold a land that stretches afar.

    18Your mind will ponder the former terror:

    “Where is he who tallies?

    Where is he who weighs?

    Where is he who counts the towers?”

    19You will no longer see the insolent,

    a people whose speech is unintelligible,

    who stammer in a language you cannot understand.

    20Look upon Zion,

    the city of our appointed feasts.

    Your eyes will see Jerusalem,

    a peaceful pasture, a tent that does not wander;

    its tent pegs will not be pulled up,

    nor will any of its cords be broken.

    21But there the Majestic One, our LORD,

    will be for us a place of rivers and wide canals,

    where no galley with oars will row,

    and no majestic vessel will pass.

    22For the LORD is our Judge,

    the LORD is our lawgiver,

    the LORD is our King.

    It is He who will save us.

    23Your ropes are slack;

    they cannot secure the mast or spread the sail.

    Then an abundance of spoils will be divided,

    and even the lame will carry off plunder.

    24And no resident of Zion will say,

    “I am sick.”

    The people who dwell there

    will be forgiven their iniquity.

    May God Bless and Protect His own always, who may be in this forum.
     
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    satan tries to mirror God. If you notice many Jews call themselves Zionist, they even have so called "Christians" on board with their brand of 'Zionism" which is simply Talmudic garbage (" those deep things of satan"). This to combat the idea of the
    144, 000 who stand with the lamb on Zion.

    This is to always confuse the true meaning of everything. satan, as he was in heaven, stays close to the throne of faith on earth.
    For instance : Christ is called the (Morning Star) this analogy represents the sun which is a metaphor for the light of the new covenant, an inward rising of light. satan is called (star of the morning) this analogy is more of a representation of Venus which rises just before the sun comes up. Of course this too is a metaphor for actual events that happen. The Man of sin will rise just before the return of Christ. We must pray long and hard, study , seek and we shall find.
    The Father's Messiah -Christ Jesus is called the Lamb of God, satan's false messiah will have two horns like a lamb , but will speak like a dragon. There is heavenly Wisdom, there is fleshly wisdom- demonic in source. There is a form of Zionism that is devilish, then there are those who stand upon mount Zion with the Lamb and follow Him wherever He goes.

    Zion means: Indication / Marker both words mean SIGN. So what is this mountain or Sign the Lamb of God stands on in Rev.14?
    Revelation 14 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
    The Lamb and the 144,000
    14 Then I looked, and there was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion! And with him were one hundred forty-four thousand who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder; the voice I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps, 3 and they sing a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and before the elders. No one could learn that song except the one hundred forty-four thousand who have been redeemed from the earth. 4 It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins; these follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They have been redeemed from humankind as first fruits for God and the Lamb, 5 and in their mouth no lie was found; they are blameless

    Now it is clear that FIRST this is a spiritual mountain. Because they are already established for this End of days. They will too, be translocated supernaturally after the (sixth seal or what has come to be known as The 3 Days of darkness), those who are not already on mount Zion ( the physical one in Israel).

    Since Zion actually means Indication/Marker just other words for SIGN...what is the sign the Lamb stands upon, and those who follow Him stand upon? It is the Sign of His Incarnation? It is the SIGN of Immanuel, Mother Mary is called Zion in this prophecy or in the Hebrew :Tzion (ציון), can be translated as “indication” or .marker which is the SIGN. That Sign has been glorified in the heavens and has appeared in the celestial bodies in its fullness on Sept.23, 2017 and concluded over Israel. God always gives a sign in the celestial bodies to indicate something great to happen upon the earth. This Sign which is the sign of Rev.12 speaks to the (STAND) against all false doctrines which have become to be called "Christian" doctrines. By the Grace of God I have been redeemed to do this. Not I alone , but I am part of the covenant of God.


    Now I have heard Christians of the Catholic assembly argue that this 144, 000 are simply priest who have taken a vow of celibacy, Orthodox too share this belief concerning their priest. That is not true, though this group is made up of some of them. They are virgins not because they are celibate but because they are the Virgin's choice in election for her Son. This coincides with the Marriage Feast at Canaan. Christians redeemed of gentiles from the Catholic Church will get this so will Orthodox because they are for mysticism and love those TRULY DEEP THINGS OF GOD. We know in the Marriage Feast of Canaan mother Mary picks the servants herself and tells them, " Do whatever He tells you". This is a prophecy. It is about the End of the age , when the Best Wine is saved for last and is then served up AFTER all the other wine(doctrines have been. It is the Best doctrine and is what these 144, 000 chosen are given. It is actually the everlasting gospel simply sung (taught) in a New way) . New Song = New Wine and the Best for Last.

    In the dialogue there is NO sin of ambition on Her part when she asks her Son to do this miracle before His time that heretic Calvinist assert.

    That miracle before His time then, points to the miracle before His second coming now. That is the sixth seal! A dreadful appearance of the Lamb in heaven as He pulls back the veil of His throne. It is not His return but a miracle before the seventh seal and seventh trumpet for His chosen elect.
    The Wedding feast at Canaan dialogue is a message for those grooms and brides/ men and women of the end times. The churches will be served up this wine and some already are, by the chosen servants. I have to give it to the Steward of the faith and now the guest. The Steward is Israel, from where the provisions of the faith have come . Israel from the beginning was charged with providing provisions for the attendees . Out of Israel has come the faith provided to all who have and do partake in the Wedding feast of the lamb, the Passover Lamb for all of the house.I will also draw out some from the denominations and they will be made potent before the New Wine is brought to the Steward. This is represented by the jars of water in the wedding Feast of Canaan John 2:1-12. The waters used for purification then and those baptized ever since produce a faithful remnant throughout the ages. For the Last days of the End times that means, those who have been purified from original sin through the baptismal waters, I will draw out some,and the last church will be formed. Out of denominations, they will take only the truth with them and given more and a quickening of their spirit will happen and they will be made potent= Turned to the Best Wine and will be brought to Israel by God. Meaning , within meaning within meaning like peeling an onion , this just gets deeper and deeper.

    As I have said Christian redeemed out of Catholics and Orthodox only need a bit of tweaking to be presented as Paul says:
    2 Corinthians: 11:1-3
    Paul and the False Apostles
    1I hope you will bear with a little of my foolishness, but you are already doing that. 2I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. For I promised you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ. 3I am afraid, however, that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may be led astray from your simple and pure devotion to Christ.…

    This is the Virginity of Rev.14 spoken of- not physical. They will obtain perpetual virginity though by the End of the Tribulation. This portion of the Church will be transformed in a moment in a twinkling of an eye, like Mother Mary. Like Mother Mary they follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They have NOT been defiled by(women)=churches which DENY Mother Mary's exalting or cling to ANY false doctrines. They have NEVER forsook her no matter what. That is why they are chosen and Elect. It is this group who will be shepherds after Christ's own heart that will be given to Israel who will preserve the remnant of Jacob (Israel) when in it is in Kedar. All of this is within the Song of Solomon. God Bless any Christians called out for this purpose of Catholic and Orthodox , if you are in here. Peace to you brethren in the name of Yeshua ha Meshiach!

    Next an untimely taking away , what has come to be known as a pre-trib or mid- trib rapture. Not a blessed event.........do the scriptures reveal another but unholy snatching away?
     
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    Stephanie, condense your posts , summarize, get to the point and more people will read them.
     
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    Stephanie???

    Yeah I know it:Laugh! You people only like long drawn out post based in fiction, "protestant" doesn't suck up the oxygen in the room with his post......as if!:rolleyes:

    At least I am breathing out New Life for those who are interested. Can only be blessed with my post when accepted. Just continuing what father Abraham was promised.

    In any case this is my last post, I have to move on . Those who are Blessed to be chosen, STAY AWAKE! Blessings.
     
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    This is silly. "THE" antichrist will be one man. He won't be a pope or other RC official, but his sidekick the false prophet may very well be a RC official.

    The RCC will help boost him tp power as Rev. 17 shows, but once in the driver's seat, he will turn against the RCC. (Many people in the 1930s believed Hitler was the AC cuz the RC delegates of the Reichstag passed the "Enabling Act which made Hitler almost-absolute dictator of Germany, & once there, he turned against the RCC.)

    Watch for a man to come from "nowhere" as Hitler did, but unlike the bombastic Hitler, he will charm the world & have few enemies, being able to "mesmorize" Jew, Muslim, & pagan alike. He will be of Roman descent, but there are descendants of Romans worldwide now, co he could come from anywhere. But he will be a "prince" of the Romans as Daniel was told. (But again, aside from Italy's royal family, we don't know who that could be! And the descendants of the old Roman rulers could be anywhere now !)

    This man will be the greatest demagogue, public speaker, & charismatic personality of all time. While he will overthrow 3 other rulers to become the Grand Imperial Poobah, he will gain power mostly thru charm & deception. If it happens in our lifetimes, Christians, "LIFT UP YOUR HEADS, FOR YOUR REDEMPTION DRAWS NEAR".(the rapture)
     
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    MMRRPP ! WRONG !

    The image (statue) will be of the "beast' himself. The false prophet will supernaturally make it speak.
     
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    M'am, you really need to study the Revelation, while at the same time studying Daniel & the other prophets as well, while at the same time studying current events & history. You'll see how events are shaping up, as history is shaped by Scripture, not vice versa.
     
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    Remember Hal Lindsey doing as you are suggesting? Sure sold a lot of books!
     
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    So, thread after thread and page.after page of 'Protestant' posting his endless venom is fine with you? Why treat his cut & paste tactics from Iconbusters differently. I have always found you to be reasonable and you have always been kind and respectful to me over the years. I would ask you to consider why you are not requesting Protestant to do the same.
     
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    Protestant? what is the post number to which you refer?
     
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    Hank, every thread 'PROTESTANT' has initiated on the BB over the past months/years has been post after post, thread after thread of anti-Catholic garbage. For what ever reason, the moderator allows him to continue. He has never debated or responds. He acknowledged the moderator had asked him to respond but to comments but said he would not respond if he deemed the question or post childish. I encourage you to take a look at the.last recently closed thread and see for yourself.
     
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    Hmm, do you know if Protestant is a former Catholic? Often converts ("Separated Brethren") are the most zealous.
     
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    Lindsey's goof was putting dates on future events. The eschatological events may occur shortly, or somewhat later. WE DON'T KNOW !

    And let's remember that each & every tidbit of Scriptural intel is there for a reason. God had a plan from the beginning, and, as time passed, He revealed more & more of it. Let's not do as preterists do, who try to support their false doctrine by reducing Scriptures that are inconvenient for their doctrine to "figurative/symbolic" status to try to cover up the fact that the events they SAY have already happened, have NOT yet happened.
     
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    And, they have often exchanged one set of false doctrines for another set of false doctrines.
     
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    You mean like Chick Publications that Christianity Today exposed? Chick Publications put out a so called 'former Jesuit' by the name of Alberto Rivera as a convert to REAL Christianity. 'Father' Rivera was the darkest of the devils pack who was ordered (by the pope himself) to use any means necessary to bring destruction on 'BIBLE BELIEVERS'. Christianity Today completely exposed Rivera and Chick Publications as, it turns out, Rivera was never a Jesuit or a priest and was a common criminal. After being exposed Chick Publications continues to sell the story. Google it. Interesting stuff. 'Protestants' ICONBUSTERS website is filled with such tactics. Hank, you seem fine with a thread that has nothing on it but that. But let a Catholic leaning person post in that manner . . . FOUL
     
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    not sure if you are addressing me - if so please explain by an example post what you mean.
     
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    Hank, here is an example of the zeal you mentioned going way too far:

    A Letter on Alberto Rivera: Fraud or Failure
     
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    And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet (Matthew 24:6).

    And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? (Rev. 13:4)

    The Greek noun translated into English as ‘war’ is polemos (Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance # 4171).

    Without question this may refer to literal warfare, battle and mortal combat.

    But that is not always the case. For example, according to Thayer’s Greek Lexicon, James 4:1, though having the same Greek noun, polemos may be translated as ‘a dispute, strife, quarrel.’

    Furthermore, our English noun ‘polemics’ -- the art or practice of engaging in controversial debate or dispute – has its origin rooted in the Greek noun polemos.

    Thus, the wars of which the Lord and the Revelation speak are not to be limited to those which use carnal weapons, but must include the war of words, using the spiritual sword of God’s Word.

    This is the very warfare detailed in the Inquisition records, Roman Catholic Bishops’ registers, Protestant martyrologies, etc., which recount the debates and disputes between the Roman clerical hierarchy and the so-called ‘heretics’ through the ages.

    ‘Polemics’ is recognized as a branch of Christian theology devoted to the refutation of errors (Webster’s Third New International Dictionary Unabridged). Typically, emphasis is placed upon what are considered controversial subjects.

    The Protestant Reformers brought forth this branch of Christian theology in full flower. The Jesuits were their leading opponents, having such committed and highly skilled adversaries as Cardinal Bellarmine, Thomas Stapleton, and Jacques Bossuet, to name but a few.

    As has been proved in several previous posts, the so-called ‘heretics’ through the centuries were unanimous in identifying the Pope of Rome as the Antichrist, the one of whom we are forewarned in Scripture.

    The Protestant Reformers carried this doctrine to a profoundly prolific level by writing and publishing substantial commentaries on the Revelation, as well as commenting extensively on other pertinent Scriptures, such as 2 Thess. 2.

    It was through the fertile imaginations of the Jesuits that Futurism and Preterism were formally introduced as eschatological systems placing the revelation of the unknowable Antichrist into the unknown future, or identifying him in the known pagan Roman past. Both systems virulently deny the Pope of Rome as that Man of Sin, the son of perdition.

    Today those two systems dominate professing Christendom, with Futurism being the most popular.

    How is it, one may ask, that such an unlikely occurrence took place?
     
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    wow.

    Walter I no longer get embroiled in disputes concerning a single individual.
    the last time i think i did that was concerning peter ruckman and the KJVO dispute.
    i just name the error, give my own short analysis and move on.

    James 3
    6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
    7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
    8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
    9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
    10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.


    we don't know what a day will bring. the railing we bring today we may have to eat tomorrow because we find ourselves guilty of something worse.

    i remember years ago listening/watching a televangelist preacher who was thoroughly condemning drinkers of alcohol, he raised his eyes to heaven and thanked the LORD that "alcohol has never passed these lips".

    The very next day it was in the news that he had been arrested and jailed in a police raid upon a house of ill repute.
     
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