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    Yes, after ending the millennial reign of the Lord then Satan must be loosed a little season. But now, even now, Satan will be laid hold and bound and cast into the bottomless pit, into the abyss, for a thousand years, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled.

    Satan did have power to enter and to do his evil works within the first and second heavens, but he will never enter in the 3rd heaven, much less in the heaven of the heavens after the end of the millennial reign. Actually the Devil will be cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the Beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    PS. 2 Petter 3:v.7-8

    7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now (the first and the second heavens), by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of Judgment (the Lord's Day) and perdition of ungodly men.

    8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
     
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    But in Revelation Lord JESUS said the message of the seventh angel is about the conquer of God's Kingdom, as follow:

    Revelation 11:v.15 - 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.

    Revelation 11:v.18 - And the nations were angry (yeah, the nations will be angry - furious), and thy wrath - God's wrath - is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that God should give reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth. - This prophecy will fulfil LITERALLY from now on, day after day, and there will be great punishments against the wicked nations, only and only punishment, in accord God's wrath. There will not be escape, it is determined and revealed by the Word of God. The Word is God, yeah, He, the Word, is God.

    1Corinthians 15:v.24

    The end comes, when He shall have delivered up the Kingdom to God, even the Father; when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    25 For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet.

    26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
     
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    Who really will assume as messiah of the Jews is another Rabby, Eliyahu Bakshi Doron
     
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    The 1000 years end and the kingdom is forever. How can the 1000 years be the kingdom?
     
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    The time of millennial reign will end, but not the kingdom of God, as prophesied by Daniel: 2: v.44 - ... the God of heaven will establish a Kingdom that will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not pass into the hands of another people. It will break to pieces and consume all those kingdoms; but it, itself, will stand forever.

    But the kingdom of the Devil was not destroyed definitely. JESUS announced by Revelation that Satan once more will try to destroy the people of God after the end of the millennial Kingdom that will be established from now on by the Power of the Word of God. By the way, the Word is God, yes, He, the Word is God.

    In my vision, the Kingdom of God will be for ever and ever only and only when Satan be cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the Beast and the false prophet will be, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    Satan will definitely be defeated in two turns. In the first round he will be defeated and thrown into prison in the deep, in the second round Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire where the Beast and the false prophet have long been.

    As was and is prophesied, when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

    Therefore, Satan is released after being in prison for a thousand years, and only after the last battle will he be defeated forever, and only then will the eternal kingdom and Eternity be established. This new heavenly environment will be the heaven of the heavens. The first three heavens desappears.

    The question is: How long will the Devil have in his last period of freedom after the millennium? For me the Scriptures do not reveal this detail, but I do not believe Satan will succeed in the short term to deceive nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, and gathering them together to battle once the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

    In Christ JESUS, KING of kings(made by Him) and LORD of the lords
    Oseas
     
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    But if Satan attacks the kingdom when the 1000 years no longer exist, they are not the kingdom.
     
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    In your conception, but not in the Word of Truth.

    It is very interesting how you jump from one thought to another for lack of understanding of the things of God, or worse, because you do not believe in God. By the way, the Word is God, yeah, He, the Word, is God.

    See, we are speaking of the Kingdom of God, right? And He says - not me - by His own Word that His Kingdom is for ever, right? Do not you believe in God and know not His plans and strategies of how to fulfil His everlasting Word?

    What did God say by His Word? The Judgment will be given in favor of His people, yeah, the holy ones of the Most High, and the time came for the holy ones to take over the Kingdom, then the Kingdom, the RULERSHIP and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be given to the holy people, the people of the Most High.

    And their Kingdom is an everlasting Kingdom, and all rulers will serve and obey them.

    Ah, there will be a King, yeah, an Eternal King, and this MAN will be the ruler of the Kingdom of God. I know Him. Do you know who He is? So, I ask: Who is the King? Do you know His name? Will be? If you know, tell me, please.
     
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    You are siding with the Pharisees on a physical Millennial kingdom and rejecting Jesus' teaching about the kingdom. Notice the spiritual nature of the Kingdom according to Jesus.


    “And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 3:2) (KJV 1900)

    “And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” (Matthew 11:12) (KJV 1900)

    “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28) (KJV 1900)

    “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.” (1 Corinthians 15:50)

    “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) (KJV 1900)

    “Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born of water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” (John 3:5)

    “Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” (John 18:36) (KJV 1900)

    “And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:” (Luke 17:20) (KJV 1900)

    “Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21) (KJV 1900)

    “But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has already overtaken you.” (Luke 11:20)

    “because we are not looking at what can be seen but at what cannot be seen. For what can be seen is temporary, but what cannot be seen is eternal.” (2 Corinthians 4:18)

    “Now when the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus performed, they began to say to one another, “This is certainly the Prophet who is to come into the world.” Then Jesus, because he knew they were going to come and seize him by force to make him king, withdrew again up the mountainside alone.” (John 6:14–15)

    “He delivered us from the power of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of the Son he loves,” (Colossians 1:13)

    When Jesus saw that he answered intelligently, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And no one dared to question Him any longer.” (Mark 12:34) (HCSB)

    “for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.” (Romans 14:17) (HCSB)

    “I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” Revelation 1:9 (NASB95)
     
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    Oh no Dave, you are wrong about me, I have nothing to do with Pharisees. Anyway, I enjoyed your post, it has a lot of material for an excellent Bible study.

    See, the Pharisees didn't know the book of Revelation as we know it. And it seems that you have forgotten what JESUS said after His ascention as it is written in Revelation 5:v.9-10KJV:
    9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
    10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.



    Yes, around two thousand years ago was prophesied about the establishment of the Kingdom of God in this last Day, that is the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium, the millennium of Christ and Millennium of the Truth. One Day with the Lord is as a thousand years and vice-versa (2Peter 3:v.8)

    JESUS said to the Jews: (John 2:v.19-21KJV)
    19 Destroy this temple, and in three Days I will raise it up.
    20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
    21 But he spake of the temple of His body.
    - His body is the Church - JESUS was speaking of building, not of resurrection of His own body.

    Colossians 1:v.24KJV - Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for His body's sake, which is the Church.

    Acts 14:v.22 KJV - Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that
    we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.



    Yes, but let us analyze deeply in accord Scriptures: 1Cor:v.53-53KJV say:

    53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
    54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    Philippians 3:V.20-21
    20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: ~~~~(I am speaking with you from this heaven, from whence also I look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ)~~~~
    21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself. ~~~Did you understand?~~~



    Yes, JESUS said also: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Mattew 7:v.21KJV

    And JESUS said more this: Luke 20:v.35-36 - KJV
    35 But they which shall be accounted WORTHY to obtain that world
    (the next world-the Kingdom of God that will be established), and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
    36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

     
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    JESUS said: Luke 19:v.26-27KJV
    26 For I say unto you, That unto every
    one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
    27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.




    For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. (Romans 14:v.17KJV)


    Revelation 11:15&18KJV
    15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall REIGN for ever and ever.

    18
    And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. - Greats Punishments -


    Ephesians 1:v.3-7KJV -

    3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

    4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

    5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

    6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

    7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;



    1Corinthians 15:v.14-28
    24 - The end comes, when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
    25 For He must REIGN, till He hath put all enemies under His feet.
    26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
    27 For He hath put all things under His feet. But when He saith all things are put under Him, it is manifest that He is excepted, which did put all things under Him.
    28 And when all things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

    Acts 14:v.22 KJV - Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.



    Revelation 1:v.7-8&6 and 5:v.10 KJV
    7 Behold, He cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen.
    8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
    6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and His Father; to Him be Glory and Dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

    Revelation 5:v.10 KJV-
    And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
     
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    You are missing the spiritual kingdom that arrived with Christ. The one only the born again can see. The one here now, with the New Heavens and Earth where Christ receives a Kingdom of his own and reins forever. There is no physical millennial kingdom.

    Jesus now sits on David's Throne since his resurrection/ascension Acts 2:29–33. This is the "kingdom" symbolized in Revelation 20:2. The one Jesus said was "at hand" Matthew 3:2, "within you" Luke 17:21, "not of this world" John 18:36 and "comes without observation" Luke 17:20, being spiritual in nature.

    And one must be born again to see it John 3:3. It is the kingdom many still look for physically in Premillennialism and Dispensationalism even though it has been here unnoticed by them since Pentecost 33 AD. Where Jesus remains on David's Throne/aka God's Throne 1 Chronicles 29:23, until the resurrection of the dead at the end of the world 1 Corinthians 15:21–26.

    Jesus' kingdom of his own;

    ““To him who overcomes will I grant to sit with Me on My throne [future], as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne [presently in heaven]. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”” (Revelation 3:21–22)

    “And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Matthew 19:28)

    “Then I saw a great white throne and Him who was seated on it. From His face the earth and the heavens fled away, and no place was found for them.” (Revelation 20:11)

    ““When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory.” (Matthew 25:31)

    “The victor: I will give him the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I also won the victory and sat down with My Father on His throne.” Revelation 3:21 (HCSB)
     
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    Scripture teaches that he took the throne of David when he ascended back to the Father.

    Acts 2:29-33,36 KJVS
    [29] Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. [30] Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; [31] He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. [32] This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. [33] Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. [36] Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
     
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    Yes, "For David - the King of Israel - is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Acts 2:v.34-36KJV

    Hebrews 2:v.8KJV reveals
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    Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under Him, he left nothing that is not put under Him. But now we see not yet all things put under Him.

    Acts 3:v.19-224KJV
    19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
    20 And he - God the Father -
    shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
    21
    Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
    22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
    23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

    24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

    1 Corinthians 15:v.24-28
    The end comes when he - JESUS - shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
    25 For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet.
    26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
    27 For He hath put all things under His feet
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    ut when He saith all things are put under Him, it is manifest that He is excepted, which did put all things under Him.
    28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

    By the way, even the Patriarch Jacob did see and prophesied about these days. Genesis 49:v.1KJV - 1 "And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days"

    And about Dan, Jacob said: verse 17 - Dan shall be a Serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward. Having seen this satanic picture in his vision about Dan, Jacob shouted: (v.18) 18 I have waited for thy salvation, O Lord. --- By the way, the tribe of Dan was replaced in Revelation 7 ---

    The end comes when He - JESUS - shall have delivered up the KINGDOM to God, even the Father; when He - JESUS - shall have PUT DOWN ALL RULE and ALL AUTHORITY and POWER. For JESUS must reign, till He hath put ALL ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is DEATH. And when ALL THINGS be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him - God the Father - that put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. AMEN.

    In Christ JESUS, KING of kings (made them by Him) and LORD of lords
    Oseas (Hosea)
     
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    [QUOTE="1689Dave, post: 2529069, member: 14074"]You are missing the spiritual kingdom that arrived with Christ. The one only the born again can see.[/QUOTE]

    Do not worry with me, be worried with you, if you had birthed again, you would have the Spirit of Christ, of Christ JESUS, evidently. JESUS said: "No man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and He to whom the Son will reveal him.


    Oh no, the gospel of the kingdom of God has been preached and spread throughout the world, beginning with Jesus and His apostles and continuing with His disciples in these two thousand years, and now the consummation of the centuries or end of the world or ages has come.

    You are wrong, for JESUS will not receive a Kingdom as you say erroneously, the Kingdom is a conquer, it will be conquered, there will be WAR and Judgment, and the Beast of the sea with his 7 heads and 10 horns and the false prophet(Revelation 13:1-18) both will be cast into the lake of fire(Revelation 19:v.19-20), and the father of the lie and also of the Jews (John 8:v.44) will be chained and cast into the bottomless pit, into abyss.




    What prevails is the Word of God, not yours, do you understand? Revelation 5:v.10: And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
    It seems you confess and believe in the gospel of the esoteric belief or spiritists, your belief.




    JESUS will sit on David's Throne only and only after His return not so far from this time. Revelation 1:v.7-8 - 7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

    Revelation 20:v.2 sais that a powerful angel (actually an archangel) of the Lord will lay hold on the Dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bind him a thousand years, and Satan will be cast into the abyss, as I said above, this will fulfil LITERALLY from now on. The goal is to cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


    Yes, but you do not understand the things were preached by the Lord JESUS, only he who was born again of the water and of the spirit is whom understand His words. The one JESUS said has nothing to do with the nature of your esoterical or spiritist belief.

    It is written:
    And the Great Dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his messengers (false preachers of the Word of God, false prophets) were cast out with him, and a loud voice sounded in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

    And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth (Israel) and of the sea(Gentile nations)! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    In Christ JESUS, KING of kings (made them by him) and LORD of the lords
     
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    Do not worry with me, be worried with you, if you had birthed again, you would have the Spirit of Christ, of Christ JESUS, evidently. JESUS said: "No man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and He to whom the Son will reveal him.



    Oh no, the gospel of the kingdom of God has been preached and spread throughout the world, beginning with Jesus and His apostles and continuing with His disciples in these two thousand years, and now the consummation of the centuries or end of the world or ages has come.

    You are wrong, for JESUS will not receive a Kingdom as you say erroneously, the Kingdom is a conquer, it will be conquered, there will be WAR and Judgment, and the Beast of the sea with his 7 heads and 10 horns and the false prophet(Revelation 13:1-18) both will be cast into the lake of fire(Revelation 19:v.19-20), and the father of the lie and also of the Jews (John 8:v.44) will be chained and cast into the bottomless pit, into abyss.




    What prevails is the Word of God, not yours, do you understand? Revelation 5:v.10: And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
    It seems you confess and believe in the gospel of the esoteric belief or spiritists, your belief.





    JESUS will sit on David's Throne only and only after His return not so far from this time. Revelation 1:v.7-8 - 7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

    Revelation 20:v.2 sais that a powerful angel (actually an archangel) of the Lord will lay hold on the Dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bind him a thousand years, and Satan will be cast into the abyss, as I said above, this will fulfil LITERALLY from now on. The goal is to cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.




    Yes, but you do not understand the things were preached by the Lord JESUS, only he who was born again of the water and of the spirit is whom understand His words. The one JESUS said has nothing to do with the nature of your esoterical or spiritist belief.



    It is written:
    And the Great Dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his messengers (false preachers of the Word of God, false prophets) were cast out with him, and a loud voice sounded in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

    And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth (Israel) and of the sea(Gentile nations)! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    In Christ JESUS, KING of kings (made them by him) and LORD of the lords
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    The Pharisees invented the Millennium. Jesus refuted it time and again in the gospels teaching a present spiritual kingdom instead. His is a kingdom of faith. The Pharisees' is a Kingdom of sight. Plus the physical kingdom is riddled with problems created for it by the gospels. We can discuss this if you like.
     
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    “Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21)

    That ought to clinch it. Forget about before, during, or after the millenium. It's in us. Makes us wonder what a belllyache really is, then.
     
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    I agree and if the kingdom of God is within you, then the millenial battle is within you too... Its called a constant warfare and brethren we fight it everyday... Why do you think Satan bothers you, because you belong to someone else!... Brother Glen:)

    2 Corinthians11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
     
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    The Pharisees invented the Millennium. Jesus refuted it time and again in the gospels teaching a present spiritual kingdom instead. His is a kingdom of faith. The Pharisees' is a Kingdom of sight. Plus the physical kingdom is riddled with problems created for it by the gospels. We can discuss this if you like.[/QUOTE]
     
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    No true, no true. The millenial God's Kingdom was revealed by the Lord JESUS around the year 95AD, around 60 years after His ascention to the heaven, understand?

    The temple of God had been destroyed completely, there was not be left one stone upon another, that was not be thrown down. The Romans had banned Israel of their land and they were scattered all over the world and stayed without nation from the year 70 until 1948, Israel was punished for 1.878 years in accord all the punishments and plagues written by Moses in Deuteronomy 28:v.15-68, so 54 verses of strong and terrible punishments.

    Therefore, what you are saying and preaching was invented by the father of lie and of the Jews include the Pharisees, of course. Actually spiritually you are on the level of the Pharisees and their father(as is written in John 8:v.44) in your interpretations.



    To speak truthfully of the things Jesus did preach and the works He did, it is necessary first to have the Spirit of Christ. The testemony of JESUS is the spirit of prophecy, He never lied, but you lie, as I have just showed besides the posts posted above.


    The gospel God did give to JESUS to preach unto the lost sheeps of the house of Israel is pure and has not any thing it can creat of problem. The real problems that happen within the Kingdom of God are created not by the written Gospels, but by the Ministers of Satan transformed as the ministers of righteousness, and deceitful workers, and false apostles, whose end shall be according to their works. (2Cor.11:v.13-15) There will not be escape.
    The discussion is opened.


    The battle or the WAR is against three unclean spirits like frogs, By the way, a satanic trinity, a trinity of Devil.

     
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    I believe this post of mine was not received as I meant it-- which is at least half sarcastically. If end time and eternity prophecies are 'spiritual' with no realities of time and space, then is THIS all we have or ever will have?-- that is, an inner compulsion to give Him our praises and regard His commandments? No rule of the world by the righteous king, no rising from the graves of those of His own, no Messiah coming in a cloud, no real throne, no jasper walls or streets of gold or pure river running by the throne? No conscious existence beyond this loathsome life? Then forget it, as it doesn't seem worth that much. Just go with Mark Twain, who, when in his dying days was asked if he feared being dead, said "I was dead for thousands of years before I was born, and it never bothered me a bit."
     
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