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Great way to save money!

 

Dan,

I wanted to be looking at books and also at baby clothes of the pink variety. Needless to say I couldn't read the price tags. There is always another day...God willing.

Sheila

 

What books are you looking for?

 

Anything relevent to my studies. I would love to find a second hand copy of "Theology of Hope" by Jurgen Moltmann and also the one that Jim has recommended by F.F. Bruce, but I can't remember the title. I only have two of Tozer's books, so I am always looking out for them. Rob wants us to go to Hay-On-Wye, but I don't think we can afford to do that just yet.

Sheila (book addict)

 

Funny thing about books. I donated 400 books to a local Bible College and wouldn't you know, those are the books I am always looking for.

I shouldn't trouble myself about reading anything Moltmann has written and I can't recall which book by Bruce I suggested. I have all his books; was it Paul; Apostle of the Heart Set Free?

I don't buy many books anymore, but enjoy reading parts of the books I already have. I should buy some more modern books, I suppose.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Jim,

The reason I wanted Moltmann is that the lecturer advised us to read it in preparation for the essay we have to do for Radical Christian Theologies. There are 2 copies and both are available only in the Open Theological College, which means that I can't take it out on loan as I am a regular student, not an OTC student. Yes, the Bruce book you posted is the one you have recommended to me before. I would like to get that one and some more of Tozers too.

Generally, we as mature students try to buy as many books as we can because we are not best pleased with the university library and we try to make sure that the books are available to those who are not able to afford them. We are happy to loan our copies to students who want to photocopy parts of a book if that is the only way they can have access to one.

Blessings

Sheila

 

Jim,

Some of the modern authors I like are: N.T. (Tom) Wright. http://home.hiwaay.net/~kbush/wrightpage.html

James D.G. Dunn, Ben Witherington 111, Gerd Theissen, but there again I am a big fan of Paul. You may like to take a look at Tom Wright's web page above. He is now Bishop of Durham. Another writer I like is Anthony Thistleton. I don't know if you are familiar with any of these authors.

Blessings

Sheila

 

I enjoy the work of Boice and MacArthur. But I would rather listen to them preach than read what they wrote!

 

I loved to hear Martyn Lloyd-Jones preach, T.T. Shields. I never had much opportunity to hear many preachers. Too busy with my own churches. I did listen to Charles E. Fuller and Vernon McGee, but had to ignore their dispensationalism. They were great devotional preachers.

Cheers,

Jim

 

I like listening to Blackbird preach. Would be good to hear both Jim and Dan also.

 

Hey, I missed all this preacher talk. I find I get much more myself out of reading the great preachers. Love Lloyd-Jones' works, read everything I can by him.

How do you hear Blackbird preach Sheila?

 

Roger,

He sent me a tape.

Sheila

 

Oh right - thought maybe he was on the net someplace.

I'll just say my goodnights here in the tea room tonight.

Talk to you all later!

 

Night Roger,

I am off to bed too. Will get the tail end of the Radio 4 news.

God Bless everyone,

Sheila

 

I heard Boice speak in person two times. I also have those two on tape - plus the other two he preached in the series - at the King's College - when our daughters went there.

I have most of Romans on tape by MacArthur - plus lots of other stuff on tape by MacArthur. He spends 30-40 hours a week - studying for his sermons.

PS - we'll have to agree to disagree on dispensationalism - Brother Jim!

 

Hello everyone.

Well, I now have a copy of "Theology of Hope" from the library store. Apparently there are copies to be had in the store...so said the lecturer and he was right. The computer system didn't tell me that tho'. :confused: :rolleyes: I still haven't found the missing paper, so I am going to have to start that chapter over again. The only good thing to come of this is that I can actually see some of my desk again. Well, I have decided that if I want to do some reading this afternoon I will get it done by going into Gloucester on the bus. Leo is hyper and just wants to play... So a trip into Glos to buy some postcards and I will get to read into the bargain. Can't be bad. Just got to steer clear of the bookshops. Mustn't go in any bookshops, mustn't go in any bookshops, mustn't go in .....

 

I remember the day when we were all labelled as liberals if we didn't embrace dispensationalism, and especially if we were amillennialists.

I have sat under some dispensationalist preachers, and you won't hear me criticize them: J. Sidlow Baxter, A.W. Tozer and the like of that era. Thankfully, they also presented the gospel and life in Christ, as they preached, and I would like to think I gained some of their depth of character in the process.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Antidispensationalsim and amillennialism does not make you liberal - just IMHO - wrong.

What would make you liberal - IMHO - saying the Bible contains the Word of God - instead of the Bible is the Word of God.

Saying that you could hold a joint evangelistic crusade with clergy who are unsaved.

Denying the virgin birth.

Denying the substitutionary death of Jesus Christ.

Etc.

Dan - not a liberal!

 

I don't know that I would be antidispensational, but definitely amillennial and reformed in theology.

Eschatology, to me, is interesting, but not a field in which to be dogmatic, especially where it comes to the details of the second coming and the architecture of heaven or hell. I never made eschatology a test of fellowship, but quite the contrary for my dispensational brethren. There are far more important doctrines to espouse; election, predestination, perseverance at al.

As you know, the Bible Club Movement is dispensational, but they accepted me, but I have had baptist associations refuse to have me preach when they discovered I was amillennial. On the other hand, we allowed these same fellows to freely preach in our pulpits.

In the Plymouth Brethren, I was exposed to dispenationalism, even to viewing the Clarence Larkin slide show on the pyramids. It wasn't until the 60's that I rejected dispensationalism and embraced realized millennialism. Prolly the average person in the pews wouldn't know what my eschatological views are.

Fellowship in Christ is the key, and the clear preaching of the gospel.

Cheers,

Jim

PS. I have my original Scofield Reference Bible.

 

Though I have read some posts here on BB where the writers have no time at all for Larkin - I have several of his books and find them helpful.

My first good Bible - given to me by my parents when I was in High School (graduated in 67) was the original Scofield Reference Bible. I still have it - but it is wearing out.

Used a Dake Bible for years - but one has to be careful - because he didn't believe in eternal security.

Currently using my MacArthur NKJV study Bible. I appreciate MacArthur's persistant and deep study of God's Word. In my sermon preparation for Romans - I use MacArthur and Boice primarily. Have Wuest, Hodge, Ironside, McGee, Henry, and others - refer to them on occasion.

I would suspect that you could preach on many topics in my church - without preaching on one that we disagree on. I'm sure the opposite is true - but I'd have to be rather selective on what topics I'd use - if I were to preach from Romans 9-11.

Jim - have a good day.

PS - we'll all be straightened out when we get to glory. And because we'll then be like Him - for we shall see Him as He is - we'll not be subject to the sin of boasting - over who was right and who was not! ;)