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The Shootings In Wisconsin, the Second Thread

Melanie

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I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want to shoot up Sikhs!!! Why, why, why.....in my experience albeit limited they are a gentle, dignified and devout folk.....who do not do anything at all that could offend anyone!!:tear:
 

Crabtownboy

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I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want to shoot up Sikhs!!! Why, why, why.....in my experience albeit limited they are a gentle, dignified and devout folk.....who do not do anything at all that could offend anyone!!:tear:

Sadly because there are far right-wing fascist nuts who hate just about everyone and some of them go off the deep end.
 

InTheLight

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I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want to shoot up Sikhs!!! Why, why, why.....in my experience albeit limited they are a gentle, dignified and devout folk.....who do not do anything at all that could offend anyone!!:tear:

I'm wondering if the wacko that shot them was so dense and stupid that he thought they were Muslims.
 

Crabtownboy

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SNIP
The Tea Party is probably too 'liberal' for him. I guess you have not read about him.

Federal investigators had “looked at” Sikh temple gunman Wade Michael Page more than once because of his associations with right-wing extremists and the possibility that he was providing funding to a domestic terrorist group, but law enforcement officials at the time determined there was not enough evidence of a crime to open an investigation, a senior U.S. law enforcement official said.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media, would not say Monday which law enforcement agency had considered investigating Page, or when.

Before his rampage Sunday at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., that left him and six others dead and three critically wounded, Page was known to civil rights groups as a member of two racist skinhead bands – End Apathy and Definite Hate. He was also believed to have been a low-level member of a national white supremacist group called the Hammerskins


http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/...-sikh-temple-shooter-20120806,0,2390104.story
Before he strode into a Sikh temple with a 9mm handgun and multiple magazines of ammunition, Wade Michael Page played in white supremacist heavy metal bands with names such as Definite Hate and End Apathy.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...bVlrDQ?docId=5260439121894aa9850bdeedc676a8ed
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Squire Robertsson

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Their problem is many Americans see their turbans and beards and think they are Muslims.
I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want to shoot up Sikhs!!! Why, why, why.....in my experience albeit limited they are a gentle, dignified and devout folk.....who do not do anything at all that could offend anyone!!:tear:
 

Squire Robertsson

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Far Warning

I am going to closely moderate this thread. So, watch your ad hominum remarks. The shooter is dead so we are going to be dealing with a lot of speculation. Let's try to be responsible with it.
 

Sapper Woody

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In this case CNN:

Military, Music Marked Temple Suspect's Path to Wisconsin

I think CNN is being way to objective. It's not like there is any other person thought to be the shooter. It's kinda like a newspaper in 1865 calling John Wilkes Booth a suspect in the assassination of President Lincoln.

I hate the fact that they brought the military into it. Just because he was in the military for a short time, and that was 14 years ago. He was forced out. But there are only two reasons I can think of to bring it up: 1. To show a history of misconduct, or 2. to tey and get people to subconsciously link the military with this event.

I hate when someone who has been out of the military for several years still has his military history brought up in a case like this. The military had nothing to do with what happened.
 

Squire Robertsson

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Some facts on his time in the Army: it was in peacetime between the two Gulf Wars. so, he never got shot at. and he never went overseas
I hate the fact that they brought the military into it. Just because he was in the military for a short time, and that was 14 years ago. He was forced out. But there are only two reasons I can think of to bring it up: 1. To show a history of misconduct, or 2. to try and get people to subconsciously link the military with this event.

I hate when someone who has been out of the military for several years still has his military history brought up in a case like this. The military had nothing to do with what happened.
 

Borneol

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I enjoyed psychiatrist Dr. Ablow's article about our broken mental health system in the US.

"Did mental illness fuel Wisconsin massacre -- or was it terrorism?"

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012...-fuel-wisconsin-massacre-or-was-it-terrorism/

snippet:

...As could be the case with Colorado shooter James Holmes, mental illness, combined with our broken mental health care system, may turn out to be the culprit in Wisconsin.
While Page had almost no criminal history, a telling moment occurred in 1998. Although he had joined the military in 1992 and been assigned to psychological operations--an exclusive department that develops and deploys intelligence information used for psychological effect (propaganda)--he was dismissed from the army during 1998, and received a discharge "under other than honorable conditions."
The reasons why Page was not honorably discharged, just like the reasons why James Holmes withdrew from the University of Colorado, must be made known. Because if both men were displaying signs of a mental disorder, and if both men were then cut loose from the organizations with which they were affiliated (the military, for one; a university, for the other), then a lack of followup would amount to those organizations washing their hands of these psychologically disordered, potentially dangerous men, without due care being taken to protect the rest of us from them.
There are many among us who are so vulnerable, so fragile, that losses we would be pained by, but move on from, lead them to kill themselves, or others, or both.
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At present, our mental health care system is so fractured, with followup so unreliable, information so scattered and authority granted to psychiatrists so meager, that those with delusions, even those who have expressed the desire and intent to kill others, falling through the cracks isn't the exception; it's the rule...

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012...n-massacre-or-was-it-terrorism/#ixzz22zXageyt
 
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