Iconoclast...
I dont understand it?
Brother, you are forgetting something....
I was once a full blown calvinist.
I was just...like...you.
Yes, I understood it. But I praise God that He opened my eyes, and I fled it.
The Sinners prayer
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by evangelist6589, May 8, 2012.
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Agedman..
This is from several pages back. I meant to comment, but didnt. Sorry.
Here goes...
You posted...
And I have been in the presence of multitudes of people who did that very thing. Millons of people have done it.
God does not put people in a trance, as lost people, then do a few incantations, and then..*presto-chango* ...they "come to" as believers in Christ.
I knew a lot of facts about Christ from attending the Roman Catholic cult during my growing up years. Wasnt saved, but knew lots of facts.
Years later, as an adult, I became very interested in true Christianity. I was under conviction. God is good at that, and he convicts everyone. I eventually became born again. I was regenerated.
Nothing was forced on me. No magic took place, but the Holy Spirit sure was there. I just knew that I wanted Jesus Christ to indwell me and save me. He did, and my life has never been the same since.
I...nobody else...made that decision. I was standing at the valley of decision, and I chose Christ. I placed my hope of eternal life squarely Jesus Christ. Nobody did that for me
It was my decision, as a worthless sinner, to do that -
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God does regenerate persons...Titus 3
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Brother Iconoclast...
Regarding the prooftexts that I provided to support men and women being involved in choosing Christ, like I did, and millions of others, have done, you posted under each one...
You are in a state of full blown denial.
...as in:
I have seen the big red ball in the room, I have felt the big red ball in the room, and I have handled the big red ball in the room, but...
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supportermandym said: ↑You know simply saying that someone is wrong without explaining your view to support your claim makes it look like you cannot support your view and faisl to promote further discussion.Click to expand...
I liked AIC to the cartoon Mr.Magoo.....in that he walked in and out of dangerous situations seemingly oblivious to what was all around him....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIYmwa6vnQ&feature=related
Mandy...I believe AIC is a nice person.....but he does not seem to interact
with the scriptures in a way that shows he gets it. Agedman.....in this thread ..went point by point and walked him through his own post...but it was like water off a ducks back....Agedman did an excellent job ....but AIC has to spend time looking at the response. -
Greektim said: ↑But a personal prayer to God for salvation is not the "sinner's prayer". The latter is the repeatable formula that a person says to God (in theory). What is the point of this repeatable formula? Are we saying that the person who is going to pray to God for salvation does not know what to pray for???Click to expand...
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Iconoclast..
You posted...
Actually...agedman quoted under each one....I did however agree with his fine post......Click to expand...
Thank you for sharing that with me Iconoclast. I apologize.
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite SupporterAlive in Christ said: ↑Iconoclast..
You posted...
Dang!
Thank you for sharing that with me Iconoclast. I apologize.
Another *Senior Moment* I guess. :laugh:Click to expand...
Everytime the bible speaks of Election and predestination it is meant to be a great comfort to struggling,persecuted saints:thumbs: Why do you fight against the comfort of God? do a concordance study....look up election, elect...and see how these verses are surrounded by comfort....
42 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.Click to expand... -
Iconoclast....
You posted...
Mandy...I believe AIC is a nice person.....but he does not seem to interact
with the scriptures in a way that shows he gets it. Agedman.....in this thread ..went point by point and walked him through his own post...but it was like water off a ducks back....Agedman did an excellent job ....but AIC has to spend time looking at the response.Click to expand...
I just have to say to you guys...
I implore you...
Please consider turning from your Calvinism liturature, and your guru Mr Calvin, and come back to the purity of the scriptures, with the Holy Spirit as you guide..rather then a mere man. It will be a tremendous benifit for you guys..I promise.
God bless
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Let's see if we can get back to the OP. I have some more questions.
Can one be saved without praying the Sinner's Prayer?
I never said the prayer. Am I in trouble?
My pastor asked me (a nine-year-old) "Are you sorry for your sins?" Yes
"Do you trust Christ for your salvation?" Yes
Was that enough?
Are there others here on the BB who never said the prayer?
Paul told the Mars Hill philosophers to repent. (Some believed and were saved). He told the Philippian jailer to believe. (He was saved).
What words did you use to get saved? We don't have a record of the jailer's saying anything in response to the admonition to believe--or any of his family. The Ethiopian eunuch told Philip "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God" and Philip baptized him.
No prayer here. No one asked God to save him.
So, if someone asks you how to be saved, what will be your answer?
Pray this prayer, say these words, repeat after me? What scriptures will be the basis of your answer?
I heard someone say to a lost person, "if you want God to save you, ask Him." Was this good counsel?
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Tom Butler said: ↑Let's see if we can get back to the OP. I have some more questions.
Can one be saved without praying the Sinner's Prayer?Click to expand...
I never said the prayer. Am I in trouble?
My pastor asked me (a nine-year-old) "Are you sorry for your sins?" Yes
"Do you trust Christ for your salvation?" Yes
Was that enough?Click to expand...
Are there others here on the BB who never said the prayer?Click to expand...
Paul told the Mars Hill philosophers to repent. (Some believed and were saved). He told the Philippian jailer to believe. (He was saved)Click to expand...
What words did you use to get saved?Click to expand...
My life has never been the same since then.
We don't have a record of the jailer's saying anything in response to the admonition to believe--or any of his family. The Ethiopian eunuch told Philip "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God" and Philip baptized him.
No prayer here. No one asked God to save him.
So, if someone asks you how to be saved, what will be your answer?Click to expand...
Pray this prayer, say these words, repeat after me?Click to expand...
What scriptures will be the basis of your answer?Click to expand...
I heard someone say to a lost person, "if you want God to save you, ask Him." Was this good counsel?Click to expand...
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Oh, I thought of another question or two.
When one confesses with his mouth Jesus Christ as Lord, to whom does he confess it?
Does he confess to God? To other people?
When one believes, whom does he tell? God? Other people?
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Alive In Christ said:Oh dont worry about them, they are too busy trying to figure me out!Click to expand...
I just want to make sure that when I point someone to Christ, I give them the right directions. -
HeirofSalvation Well-Known MemberSite SupporterIconoclast said: ↑:thumbs: He does not seem to understand what he is being asked.....but then again,if he understood it...w.e would not be having this discussion.:laugh:Click to expand...
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