That is certainly a view point. Another view point is that sometimes we strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
The Trib and Rev 7:14?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by TCGreek, Mar 9, 2008.
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BTW, he's a periodontist today but not by virtue that attitude! :laugh:
skypair -
But I see nothing of Scripture providing the data for such computation.
I'm interested in Scripture not arbitrary computations. -
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The Archangel Well-Known Member
Unfortunately, you have shown your typical response: Attack the person
How sad that you treat your brothers and sisters that way.
The Archangel -
But suppose you had Larkin even. You're still sounding rather closed to the concept and that, it seems, because it doesn't give a very flattering image of your theology. Would this be the kind of thing to make you reconsider Calvinism?
Rev 3:1-6 -- "And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels."
I would simply point to 3 parts above: 1) "name that liveth but art dead" we've discussed before. "Jesus" is the name but many in Sardis are afraid to call on Him through repentance and sinnder's prayer because that is "work."
2) Therefore, remember how YOU received and heard -- many were saved before they took up the theology first cited in (1).
3) Many have no earthly idea of what is to come because "replacement theology" is "part and parcel" of Calvinist-Reform belief. Your inquiring of me right now is proof positive that Calvinism is lacking in eschatology and I just described for you why that is.
skypair -
What we are discussing requires as much study to rebut as it does to assert. outsider was not bringing his facts to the table - I was.
skypair -
But I'm not going to blindly accept someone's computation about the 7 historical churches in Asia, when they cannot provide me with substantial Scripture.
I go by what I see in Scripture not some guesswork. -
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Nevertheless, here's a Larkin website that might be helpful. http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/tbr/index.htm
skypair -
Revelation chapter 2 and 3 do not giving hint of the year period of the seven churches, and didn't saying which church period, we are in now.
All seven churches in Asia(now Turkey) were literal and existed during John's time in the late of First Century. Christ knew their works and spiritual with blessings and warnings.
These are apply to us, what kind of type, we are. Ravelation chapter 2 and 3 apply to all types of churches throughout all centuries till second advent.
In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen! -
People who don't know Logic (the Logic that God gave to humans; nobody knows God's logic) are going to have to wallow in ignorance (not knowing).
One's OPINION or GUESS as to what the Bible says is NOT the same as what the Bible says.
1. The rule of number.
God repeats the most important things
Example:
A. 1 listing (only in some Bibles) of the name of the Lead Devil: Lucifer
B. 56 uses (KJV1769 Edition) of the Job Title of the Lead Devil: Satan
2. The rule of number
God give many pictures of the most important things
Example: Individual salvation pictures:
A. saved
B. born-again
C. Redeemed
F. regenerated
G. adopted into the Family of God
H. born into the Family of God
I. elected
J. sanctified
etc. etc.
Individual Salvation must be very important to God, He sent His only begotten Son to die for our salvation
Ed notes that 'last trumpet' is NOT mentioned in the KJV1769 Bible
Ed notes that 'last trump' is mentioned once in 1Co 15:52.
Evidently 'last trump' is NOT one of God's most important ideas. -
skypair
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