In another thread we got very off topic in a discussion of the vow of the Nazarite. Below are a few quotes from that thread to give the gist of the conversation:
The vow of the Nazarite
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by menageriekeeper, May 15, 2011.
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Read more: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=254&letter=J#ixzz1MRxeHwgz -
Hey Revmwc? Whew! I'm going to add a disclaimer to your link that they aren't authoratative on Christian history and only give opinions based on the Jewish perspective of such. They do their best to tear down the authority of our scripture. Follow the link at your own risk. :eek:
I'm still looking for the point you referenced btw. -
I don't get confused often, but yo've got me this time.
Your own link seems to discount the idea that the scribes really thought that Christ was illegitimate, though they allow that there was a dispute recorded.
However, this doesn't answer the question as to why a person of "questionable birth" couldn't have take the vow of a Nazarite. Perhaps we need to examine more closely what this vow was all about? -
Hi MK, I'm confused. Do you have a question in there somewhere? :love2:
Are you asking if Jesus took the vow? As far a what the scribes and Pharisees thought, ppphhhtttt, they still don't believe He is Messiah. Their opinion means squat. -
Well the original discussion was sort of tongue in cheek. (I was being a smart aleck)
There is a difference between the suffix -rite and suffix -rine. Someone who take the vow of a Nazarite doesn't cut their hair. Someone from the village of Nazareth is called a Nazarine. I interchanged the two suffixes in my smart remark (which isn't pertinant to the discussion her). That led Revmwc to comment that Christ couldn't have been a Nazarite because the jews considered him to be a b*stard.
I had 2 questions that led me to create this thread. 1) What about being a Nazarite meant you couldn't be of illegimate birth? 2) What evidence is there that the Jews thought Christ was illegimate?
the link Rev gave tries to answer #2, but its ambiguous at best. I still don't have an answer to #1. -
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The modern Jews really don't believe in God, they see Him as a historical mystical figure in their history, but most have no faith at all.
If you don't believe in God, it's hard to believe in a Savior sent by God.