Clergy and Lay Scholars Issue Filial Correction of Pope Francis
This Seems Big.
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Bro. Curtis, Sep 24, 2017.
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The pope is infallible. Until he's not.
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Interesting.
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One of the charges is he is too much like Martin Luther, hahahaha. Not enough more like it
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This type of "FilIal Correction" is not without precedent, most recently the same thing happenend to Pope John the XXIII.
So contrary to popular belief, the Pope does not act alone but in conjunction with the whole Church and this particular matter is not fully settled. -
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The Holy Spirit protects the church from error, I'm told. That, along with papal infallibility, is actual catholic doctrine.
This has not happened since the 1300s. -
Remember when Pope Francis uttered the words "who am i to judge" concerning gays? Well, catholic doctrine has not changed one iota on this issue. -
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I do remember. So why the big fuss about papal infallibility if it's really technically not infallibility.
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If not, then you must accept the possibilty that your scriptural interpretations are in error.
The Pope claims infallibility in matters of faith and morals and he just might be right and the rest of us wrong.
What the conservatives are upset about is that the Pope trying to figure out a way to let divorced Catholics receive Holy Communion without having received an annulment from the Church.
The Pope wants to let the local Bishops have some leeway in deciding whether to allow the fairhful a return to the sacraments because the local Bishop is more intmately involved with those concerned. This is not a blanket removal of the annulment process, but each case may be decided on an individual basis. -
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I never claimed infallibility. Point fails.
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As this Pope wants to loosen up on these as being really sinful... -
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We recognize our hearts are wicked and we try to listen to the in dwelling Holy Spirit. We feel that to trust someone who you can accuse of spreading heresies seems really dumb.
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See the protestants botched up in the first move. They should have claimed to be the genuine church and say where are the others going.
Instead they abandoned, divided and left. They did not have the faith that God would back them up internally.
For people who swear "FAITH ALONE" how come they are required to act and then require the Catholic church to change?
Everyone here who is not catholic, left a faith, and would swear the very people who taught them Christianity to be wrong.
The don't have a correct lineage of christian teaching. They all have a parent religion they deem wrong in everyway, but oh wait that book YOU GAVE US, oh we have a better understanding of then you.
God commands us to ride a boat across the ocean. He tells you I made a boat, its right here take this one, he says stay on the boat Ill always protect it.
The boat starts leaking, the crew becomes mutinous, its not going the right direction.
So the reformist think okay we need a new boat and leave the old one, look we got better captain, better boat.
That is not faith alone.
If you actually practice what you preach, you stay in the boat God chose and place faith on him to correct it.
Split and start your own denomination? That is not faith alone at all. That is a complete lack of faith a failure. -
Our greatest point of difference is we Catholics say you have to do the right thing to be saved, while you say its faith alone.
Yet somehow I am told that I am putting my soul in danger if I don't do THE GOOD WORKS of preaching the right gospel rather then a "wrong" one.
In other words its not faith alone and never will be. Every time you go about "correcting" us, you just further our point. -
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I completely reject your assertion. I am not a Protestant. Been through this with more than one catholic and am not entering into any circular arguments with any of them. You keep your catholic fantasies, as this post points out, the pope cannot possibly be infallible. All of the "what about you" posts will not change that.
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