Those Objecting to God Imputing Righteousness

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  1. KenH Well-Known Member

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    I am not a Calvinist. I am a Christian. Calvinism, or any other kind of (-ism), is not the gospel. There may be items in (-isms) that aid in systematically studying God's Word, but they are not the gospel of Christ.
     
  2. KenH Well-Known Member

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    I said that all of God's elect, other than the elect angels, are humans. You think it is "utter nonsense" to say that God's elect people are humans?
     
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    Which of the 5 points of the TULIP do you claim are false?
     
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    Here is what I said: God chooses human individuals for salvation.
    So the "utter nonsense" refers to the denial that Christ died for all humanity.
     
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    I didn't say that any of them are false. Don't John Calvin's writings include a lot more stuff than just TULIP? Not to mention his actions, some of which are rather controversial. Not having read much at all of what Calvin wrote, and certainly not aligning myself with all of his actions, I am not a follower of Calvin. I am a Christian, a follower of The Lord my Righteousness, Christ Jesus.
     
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    My comment didn't even mention the refuting of your false teaching about Christ's propitiatory atonement.
     
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    Note this "non-Calvinist" believes in all 5 points of the TULIP. Thus by definition is indeed a Calvinist. Calvinists that deny they are Calvinists are a dime a dozen on this BB!
     
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    Calvinists offer no evidence, just a steady stream of false charges. Think of their posts as disinformantion. 1 John 2:2 says Christ became the propitiation (means of salvation) for the whole world (all of humanity.)
     
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    All of the native Americans, Africans, too?
     
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    I want to thank @1689Dave for bringing to my attention that I left out a word when I typed this. I meant to write "Obviously, "world" was not every person in the world." (correction in red bold letters)
     
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    We are fully justified when the Father imputes towards us the righteousness of Lord Jesus, declared to be right standing with Him now!
     
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    Do you hold to infusion of grace then?
     
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    When are the sinners placed into Christ?
     
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    Spewing false claims is the sine qua non of Calvinists.
     
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    I was describing Pauline Justification, so you now deny that?
     
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    Putting falsehood into the mouths of their opponents is the sine qua non of Calvinists.
     
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    Yet another falsehood, for individuals are placed into Christ when God credits their faith as righteousness, not when they think they believe. Recall those of Matthew 7 who said "Lord, Lord" yet were not saved!