Soulman said:
Why in the world s our media, the Pope and government officials trying to keep the muslims warm and fuzzy? Even as corrupt as the pope is, what did he say wrong that he needs to apologize for? They are even suggesting that George Bush make nice nice with the muslims.
He originally didn't say anything wrong, and even the Muslims don't accept what he said as a sincere apology. He can't make a sincere apology and no pope in history ever has. The pope speaks "ex cathedra," in the place of God. His words are infallible, as if they are the very words of God. How can he apologize for speaking forth the infalliblie words of God? He cannot. That is why no pope has ever apologized. Their words are infallible. They may try some diplomacy, some tactfulness, some mending of fences, but when push comes to shove they cannot make any sincere apology for the words that were said.
That being said, the pope is an unsaved man. He is not a true Christian, nor does he represent Christianity as many people are deceived into thinking that he does. Even if he did apologize so what! The pope is an important figure. Almost every political figure of every stipe--from President Bush to Yaser Arafat has visited the Pope to seek his blessing.
The Muslims are more than one billion in number and growing faster than any religion on earth. As you referred to a holy war, you referred to it wrongly. We are not in a holy war. We are not in a medieval Crusade. God forbid.
2 Corinthians 10:3-5 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4. (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
5. Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
We are not on a Crusade. Are warfare is spiritual. We do not have carnal weapons but spiritual weapons.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Are war is aganst the the principalities, against powers, against the rulers
of the darkness of this world, not the physical rulers themselves.
--Take on the whole armour God that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil, not the wiles of Islam.
Why???
I think we need to speak out against this wicked religion. There may be some nice people that are muslims' but nice or not, they belong to a religion of hatred and intolerance. ( sounds like catholicisim in the dark ages) The bottom line is that if your not a muslim, you should be killed.
Not all Muslims think this way. Do you think this way? Is this the Christian way of doing things? That is the more important question to ask. How may win these people to Christ. How are we able to be the light of the world, and the salt of the earth. Salt is used, not only for flavor, but also to preserve. Are you able to preserve the goodness that is in this world and retard the evil (of Islam) by your efforts of the propagation of the gospel among the Muslims?
"We need to speak out against the Muslims"
Certainly. In our own churches, we need to speak out against all sin--the ecumenism of Billy Graham, the error of the Charismatic movement, modesty, the error of all cults and false religions, moral sins, societal sins, etc. Why just pick on Islam? There is much in the Bible to preach against? Don't ride a hobby horse. Paul said: "I have preached unto you the whole counsel of God."
I think the LAST thing we should do is to placate them. We are in a holy war. If anything, we should send them packing back to their land of hate. We are in a fight for our survival.
Which group of Bible-believing Christians do you know of is placating the Muslims. I don['t know of any. The Pope isn't a Bible-believing Christianity. Franklin Graham, as ecumenical as he may be, had some harsh words for Islam. So have many other evangelical Christians. They just are not as well known as the public. But they are not willing to retract their words either.
Our enemy is not an individual country. It is a religion and we need to treat it as an enemy to freedom. Their god is not the same God we serve. Their aim is to destroy our way of life. The LAST thing I would ever want my president to do is apologize.
Your president is not your problem; you are. What are you going to do about Islam? I know what I did, and continue to do. I am a missionary to third world mations, one of which is an Islamic nation. In spite of what could be considered a death sentence on my life a still take the opportunities offered to me and witness to them. Does it matter to me what the President or the Prime Minister (in my case) think? No of course not. The obligation of the Great Commission was put squarely on my shoulders as it is yours. Now what are you going to about it? You have a personal responsibility to those people that are lost and locked and in the clutches of Islam. Only the gospel can free them from that slavery. The gospel will set them free, and then they can be free indeed. You have that opportunity, even to witness to the ones in your nation. Islam is the fastest growing nation in America. There are plenty of them to witness to.
I am not against peaceful good people. I am against this evil
religion.
Then do something about it. What would Christ do?
DHK