Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
Today's COPS Incident
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by InTheLight, Oct 27, 2015.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Use of Time Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I figured this would end up here eventually. I also know exactly how it is going to play out.
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The cop got a little rough, but the girl had been told to leave the classroom by the teacher. She refused. That is criminal trespass. The school administrator than told her to leave school property. She refused. That is a second count of criminal trespass. Her refusal to follow the lawful instruction of the school police officer resulted in an altercation that not only removed her from the classroom but also disrupted the education of every other student in the class room. Third charge: disruption of a school.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
The sad thing is that someone can post one of these incidents almost every day. I've already reached my tipping point. The cops are just too darn quick to use force when other methods would work. -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
The cop has been sued three times previously. Once for battery (lawsuit dismissed), once for excessive use of force and battery (he won the lawsuit) and once for racial bias (trial pending in January.)
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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This is one of those textbook things that you DO NOT do.
The administration should know, that before you get a resource officer involved, that you call mama and daddy or whomever the guardian is. There are so many OTHER layers(Principal, counselors,etc.) that a teacher is supposed to go through before getting a resource officer involved.
I'm embarassed for the cop, the school and anybody associated with this.
but this is part of the training gone crazy that we were talking about. Rather than try to de-escalate a situation, today's cops come in thinking that their badges allow them to treat people any kind of way.
Notrial. Just write the family a large check and call it a day. -
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
What you do is comply with the officer. He did what was necessary. If anyone thinks that situation was not a set up to gain a video then then I have some magic beans to sell you as well.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
"She really hadn't done anything wrong," Robinson said. "She said that she had took her phone out, but it was only for a quick second."
While she didn't comply, Robinson said the girl was apologetic.
Then Fields, was called to the class. Robinson said when Fields came in, he asked Robinson's friend to move a desk. According to the student, Fields then shut the girl's computer, and moved it to another desk.
Robinson felt something was wrong, and pulled out his phone and began recording.
"When I saw what was about to happen my immediate first thing to think is let me get this on camera. This is going to be something that not only I'm going to be like 'wow did this really happened at my class,' but just something that everybody else needs to see. This is something that we can't let this just pass by."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/10/27/sc-deputy-classroom-video/74668562/ -
The officer should have already been fired considering past history, and the only reason he probably hasn't been is because of the union. -
I'd also like to know, in lieu of the Eric Garner case, what would move yet another officer to put his arms around someone's neck?
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And THIS is where people's angst is coming from in large part. There's just no reason why a police officer should have been brought into this in the first place. And once he had been, there was no reason to treat the young girl as though she were holding someone at knifepoint. It's this type of treatment at the hands of cops that young and old black folks will tell you that they see all too often. And before the videos, no one believed it and would say "if they would just comply/cooperate". Now as this treatment starts to spread to the suburbs, people will start to take note. -
New video, from a different angle, changes the whole story. The girl kicked and hit the officer prior to being removed from her desk.
http://controversialtimes.com/news/...alley-cop-assault-story-video/?utm_source=GSL -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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I don't know why this angle changes the story. She still hasn't done anything in this new angle that warrants that kind of treatment , IMO. And I still don't see her kicking or kicking at the officer.
Is there a third angle that I'm missing because this "second angle changes story" sounds like a headline straight off Hannity. -
Use of Time Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I've watched the new angle as well and I don't see any kick. She flails around a little bit when he grabs her but that's it. Would she still have deserved it if she cracked her skull open or broken her neck on the floor? Goodness gracious people. A proportional response and maybe even finding a patient level headed solution should have carried the day. What she deserved was to be cited for her actions not rough handled. There are ways to properly secure someone. Does anybody here honestly think he was trained to upend her chair and toss her across the room. A lot of people sure enjoy watching the police hurt people.
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