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Trump Cools On Expanding Background Checks

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. Oseas3

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    church mouse guy said:
    The Book is sealed. John saw what it would be like when the seals were opened. The book in question is not John's book. Trump is not one of the 4 horsemen. It is non-Christians who have the most to worry about as time goes by and the world comes to an end.

    Oh no, the book of Revelation is not sealed, absolutely. It was sealed in the time of the prophet Daniel.
    Dan. 12:v.8-9

    8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
    9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

    So the book was sealed until the ascention of JESUS, after He sat down on His throne at the right hand of the Father, and the 7 seals were broken and opened for ever.

    If, I said IF, you know not yet, here goes what happened in the third heaven during the celestial ceremony of delivering of the sealed book to JESUS to break and opening of the 7 seals.

    The ascention of JESUS into heaven happened in the end of the 4th Day and beginning of the fifth Day. What did happen really after the ascention of JESUS to the heaven (by the way the 3rd heaven), exactly in the end of the fourth Day or two thousands years ago and beginning of the fifth Day?

    First He - JESUS - did sit at the right hand of the Father. As all Christians know, the Omniscient, and Omnipotent, and Omnipresent God had planned since the beginning that His rest would be in the 7th and last Day, that is the 7th and last millennium. By the way, God had planned also since the begining to restore all things in this last millennium or last Day (Acts 3:v.19-24), known as the time of end, called also time of Apocalypse, exactly in this millennium that just started and in which we are living.

    The sealed book was with God the Father, written within and without and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woes as was seen by the prophet. Check out it in Ezekiel 2:v.10

    What the Most High had planned to happen in the Lord's Day was hidden, but it was written in a sealed book whose content did reveal all things to happen in this last Day, i.e in this last millennium that is the millennium of Christ, the end of the time. So, the content of the book would happen in the seventh and last Day exclusively. Well, this book would be the last of the Bible, the book of Apocalypse.

    JESUS received the sealed book from the Father to reveal its contents

    The people of God, especially true Christians, they need to remember and understand that it was the beginning of the fifth Day or around two thousand years ago, when JESUS ascended into heaven, by the way, to the third heaven.

    The sealed Book of Revelation was with God the Father - Revelation 1:v.1

    The sealed book was with the Father and He gave it to JESUS. The next step was with JESUS in breaking the seven seals revealing the content of the book unto His people describing all things to John by a strong angel, actually an Archangel, whose things would happen in this last period of a thousand years, that is the Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day, or the seventh and last millennium, the Millennium of Christ.

    The KING'S THRONE and the 24 ELDERS
    Having John gotten as a guest inside the 3rd heaven or in the environment of the Kingdom of God, he did see a throne was set and the King was sat on the throne. In this scenario there were more 24 thrones round the King's throne, and sat on the thrones John saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. These 24 elders are the 24 chosen men of the Most High God which did write the books of the Old Testament, beginning by Moses.

    The 7 LAMPS - the 7 SPIRITS of GOD
    There were also in this celestial environment seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God: The 7 spirits of God are: the spirit of wisdom, and the spirit of understanding, and the spirit of counsel, and the spirit of might, and the spirit of knowledge, and the spirit of fear of the Lord, and the holy spirit. From the throne came forth lightnings, voices and thunderings;

    The GREAT CEREMONY and the GUESTS -- Revelation chapter 4 and 5 - Check out it.
    During the great ceremony John did see that out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices, for there were many many guests at the ceremony and many voices.

    The four CHERUBS
    In the great and indescribable ceremony there were four Cherubs, and day and night they never stop saying “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty - JESUS -, which was, and is, and is to come. And when those Cherubs give glory and honour and thanks to Him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever, then the four and twenty elders fall down before the Lord God and Almighty JESUS that was sat on the throne, and worship Him that lives for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, Thou are worthy, O Lord, to receive Glory and Honour and Power: for thou has created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

    Revelation 6:v.1-2 describes the FIRST seal JESUS did break and open.

    1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
    2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

    Revelation 19:v.11-12
    11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth Judge and make War.
    12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

    Fellow in Christ JESUS, KING of kings and LORD of lords
    Oseas (Hosea)
     
  2. church mouse guy

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    If it is sealed until the time of the end, then you are saying that this is the time of the end, but there has not been an anti-Christ nor has there been a new Temple in Jerusalem nor has there been 3 1/2 years of peace ans safety so you cannot be correct.
     
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    Two thousand years ago the Apostle John did write, saying:
    1John 2:v.18 -
    Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    If two thousand years ago the Holy Spirit said through the beloved Apostle John it was the last time, will be you discern not by the same Spirit we are in the time of the end? By the way, Paul, the Apostle, warned :1 Tim.4:v.1 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    And JESUS left revealed: Matt.24:v.32-33
    32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
    33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

    The author of Hebrews wrote: 1:v.1-2
    1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
    2 Hath in these last (TWO*) days spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;

    *2Peter 3:v.8 - 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one Day.

    Now see, from Adam until JESUS passed around 4,000 years, and from JESUS until today has passed around 2019 years conform Christian Calendar, so we just entered in the first century of the seventh and last millennium or seventh and last Day.

    V.7 reveals - But the heavens (the first and the second heavens) and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the Day of Judgment (the Lord's Day) and perdition of ungodly men. This Day has already arrived, so there will be only and only punishment in whole earth.

    Revelation 11:v.18 says: 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, ... and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
     
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    Oseas3, these are the last days but the Anti-Christ has not proclaimed himself yet, has he? In fact, Israel has not built the third temple in Jerusalem yet, have they?

    Trump has stood up for Christians and Jews and given us peace and prosperity. Obama disliked Christians and we had 8 bad years economically under him. Most Democrats dislike Christians, don't you agree?
     
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    Right, bro, the main head of Antichrist's Kingdom "has not proclaimed himself yet". But why? Scriptures answer this question: 2 Thes.2:v.6 says: And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
    So, by the power of the Word of our God - the Word is God - he could not manifest himself before the end of time.

    Let's analyze more deeply the Antichrist's kingdom in accord Scriptures
    What is the MAIN signal of manifestation of the main head of Antichrist's kingdom?

    The powerful Word of God - the Word is God - left revealed unto us the main signal that indicates he is at the door: the apostasie of the end time: 2 Thes.2:v.3KJV - Let no man deceive you by any means: for that Day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that MAN of sin be revealed, the SON of perdition;

    In the edition of Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) we read: 2Thes.2:v.3-4
    3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For the Day will not come until after the Apostasy has come and the MAN who separates himself from Torah has been revealed, the one destined for doom. 4 He will oppose himself to everything that people call a god or make an object of worship; he will put himself above them all, so that he will sit in the Temple of God and proclaim that he himself is God.

    V.9-12 (KJV)
    9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth - believed not in JESUS -, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    That said, then we must be prepared because when this satanic MAN manifest himself, there will be TWO powerful and ruthless and devilish religious Beasts upon the earth, as is described in Revelation 13.

    And when this satanic MAN - the Beast like a lamb, a false lamb, a false messiah - who speaks as a Dragon - manifest himself and opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God, then will be established the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION.

    THE FIRST BEAST - REVELATION 13:v.1-10

    The FIRST very old Beast, that is the Beast that did rise up out of the waters (sea), that has 7 heads and 10 horns, and upon his horns 10 crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy, BY THE WAY A GENTILE BEAST, he will reign in the FIRST period of 42 months or 1.260 days of the religious and satanic Antichrist's kingdom or Empire (check it out in Rev.13:v.5) with support of another Beast (Rev.13:11-18), then tere will be two powerful and ruthless Beasts upon the earth.

    ANOTHER RELIGIOUS BEAST WILL MANIFEST HIMSELF UPON THE EARTH (ISRAEL) - REV.13:V.11-18

    v.11 And I beheld ANOTHER Beast coming up out of the earth - Israel - ; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a Dragon. (He is a false lamb, a false messiah, the son of perdition, a former Cherub, the own Satan incarnated. This revelation is linked with John 5:v.43 and 8:v.44 and 2Thes.2:v.3-4&9. Check it out. The two horns symbolize the two kingdoms of Israel)
    12 And he - the false messiah of the Jews - will exercise all the power of the FIRST Beast before him, and cause the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the FIRST Beast, ...
    ... and the Dragon will give him - to the FIRST Beast - his Power, and his Seat, and great Authority. (check it out in Rev.13:v.2)

    Both will make a deal to build a religious and universal kingdom, in fulfilment Daniel 2:41-43, iron and clay of the feet and 10 toes of the Great Image. The FIRST Beast alone has not power to build a religious and universal Empire, by no manner of means, but as soon as manifest the false messiah of the Jews, the son of perdition, a former Cherub, the own Satan incarnated, the Dragon, the 666, then the FALSE MESSIAH - the Dragon - WILL GIVE to the FIRST Beast, that has 7 heads and 10 horns, his Power, and his Seat, and Great Authority as is written in Revelation 13:v.2.

    And BOTH Beasts will fulfil their plan in to build their ephemerous Universal and religious Kingdom in whole Earth - Catholicism and Judaism - IN FACT the Universal Antichrist's Kingdom, actually the fifth and last Universal Kingdom - iron and clay , which will be DESTROYED by the Power of the Word of God. The Word is God -

    In Christ JESUS, KING of kings and LORD of lords

    Oseas - your fellow in Christ
     
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    Trump has stood up for Christians and Jews and given us peace and prosperity. Obama disliked Christians and we had 8 bad years economically under him. Most Democrats dislike Christians, don't you agree?
     
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    The Word of the Devil is ruled by the spirit of Cain, spirit of Devil. The most important now is Revelation 11:v.15 & 18

    15 ... The kingdoms of THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.

    18 And the nations were angry, - yeah, the nations will be angry - , and thy wrath is come -yeah, the wrath of God is come - , and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. - WOE OF THEM ALL , they will know how is the wrath of our God from now on -
     
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    The Word of the Devil is ruled by the spirit of Cain, spirit of Devil. The most important now is Revelation 11:v.15 & 18

    15 ... The kingdoms of THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.

    18 And the nations were angry, - yeah, the nations will be angry - , and thy wrath is come - yeah, the wrath of God is come - , and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great;and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. - WOE OF THEM ALL , they will know how is the wrath of our God from now on -
     
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    Trump stands with Christians and Jews; Obama did not and does not. This is not the end of the world.
     
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    Proverbs 27:1 Boast not thyself of tomorrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth.
     
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    No, when we are saying that these are the last days but this is not the time of the Anti-Christ and the end of the world. If it were, all the dispensationalists would have been raptured out of here but if you are a dispensationalist, and I don't know, then you are still here, aren't you??? Or are you some AI??? Now you have me worried....
     
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    i am a dispensationalist of sorts, pretrib, premil but willing to make concessions where it seems likely.
    Also, even Scofield said events may cast a shadow before they actually happen.
    Be happy, don't worry.
     
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    Oh, if dispensationalists are not yet raptured, then it is not the end of the world. Trump is still in the oval office and all is right with the world.
     
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    What if the rapture is actually mid-trib or post-trib?
     
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    It cannot be as the trib is Gods wrath
     
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    God can protect His people in the midst of His wrath. e.g. the Passover.
     
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    Now you are veering into post trib and the need for a rifle. Jorge Bergolio is a very likely possibility for The Anti-Christ.
     
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    Not the point, believers were not made to endure God's wrath.
     
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    God's wrath is not for me. So, it can be going on all around me yet I am protected.
     
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    Quite the gymnastics there
     
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