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Trump hits Amazon again

church mouse guy

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I don't like it when the leader of our government interferes with the stock market. And I'm not going to short a stock market that is about to have hundreds of companies report higher earnings because of the lower tax rates.

Trump is not ticking off the establishment with his tariff talk, he's ticking off millions of investors.

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Oh, brother. Bezos is just another #NeverTrump guy except that he is as unethical as Soros and as shrill as Hillary.

Why doesn't the richest man in the world offer to investigate the Post Office charges with an offer to make it right if the Post Office is telling the truth? Or is he just greedy?
 

InTheLight

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Oh, brother. Bezos is just another #NeverTrump guy except that he is as unethical as Soros and as shrill as Hillary.

Why doesn't the richest man in the world offer to investigate the Post Office charges with an offer to make it right if the Post Office is telling the truth? Or is he just greedy?

Please tell us what the Post Office has said about Amazon and Bezos. Also what you want Bezos to investigate.

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Baptist Believer

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Unless Trump is lying, he had to have gotten his information from the Post Office, no?
No.

While it is certainly quite likely that the President in lying (he has an incredibly long history of doing so), he also gets his "facts" from places that spread conspiracy theories and from watching opinion pieces on television.

I sincerely doubt he is getting any information from the Post Office.
 

church mouse guy

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No.

While it is certainly quite likely that the President in lying (he has an incredibly long history of doing so), he also gets his "facts" from places that spread conspiracy theories and from watching opinion pieces on television.

I sincerely doubt he is getting any information from the Post Office.

You may be right. I read that the PO is losing two or three billion a year. Big corporations get rates that are too cheap. I think that church vendors get low rates, too--do you know? Bezos is nasty. He should say that he will charge his customers more if necessary.
 

Baptist Believer

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I read that the PO is losing two or three billion a year.
That's primarily due to financial and healthcare obligations to their employees/retirees.

Big corporations get rates that are too cheap. I think that church vendors get low rates, too--do you know?
Back in college, I worked as a custodian/handyman for a church and I would deliver their bulk mail newsletter.

The church -- like all bulk mailers/shippers (including Amazon) -- received a heavy discount for presorting all of their mail/shipping so that the post office could bypass the labor-intensive sorting process.

Bezos is nasty.
I have no opinion on Bezos.

He should say that he will charge his customers more if necessary.
That's the way it always works. Increased costs always get paid by the consumer.

I think the USPS needs to be revamped for today's needs and technologies and some provision made to restructure the financial obligations for their employees/retirees.
 

Reynolds

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I don't like it when the leader of our government interferes with the stock market. And I'm not going to short a stock market that is about to have hundreds of companies report higher earnings because of the lower tax rates.

Trump is not ticking off the establishment with his tariff talk, he's ticking off millions of investors.

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The market is doing good because of Trump and you are complaining about Trump and the market. Makes no sense.
 

InTheLight

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The market is doing good because of Trump and you are complaining about Trump and the market. Makes no sense.

No, the stock market did well when the PROMISE of what Trump would do was out there. Basically all last summer and up to about his one year anniversary of his inauguration the market was reacting to what it was forseeing happening under Trump. Tax cuts and tax reform, deregulation, etc.

Then he announces his tariff policy, picks winners and losers in the marketplace, signing the omnibus spending bill, his chatter that winning a trade war was easy, his slamming of Amazon, etc. Now that he's actually doing stuff, the market doesn't like it.

Here's what the S&P 500 has done since his one year anniversary of his inauguration. It's lost over 8% of its value.

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Reynolds

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No, the stock market did well when the PROMISE of what Trump would do was out there. Basically all last summer and up to about his one year anniversary of his inauguration the market was reacting to what it was forseeing happening under Trump. Tax cuts and tax reform, deregulation, etc.

Then he announces his tariff policy, picks winners and losers in the marketplace, signing the omnibus spending bill, his chatter that winning a trade war was easy, his slamming of Amazon, etc. Now that he's actually doing stuff, the market doesn't like it.
The market is doing good because of Trump.
 

church mouse guy

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The huge national debt will limit growth. We are building up for war with North Korea. We are expecting a communist takeover of Mexico in July and the troubles at the border will double until we build a wall.
 

InTheLight

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Short it then.

Really? Your rebuttal to my observations that Trump is affecting the market is that I should go with it and change my entire investing strategy?

The market was doing just fine and it should recover from Trump's stupid tariff policies and negative comments about US companies.

The market has set records under Trump.

What records? The stock market is up about 14% since Trump was inaugurated. That's hardly a record for a 14 month period.

Trump-vs-Obama-Stock-Market.jpg


If its all gloom and doom, short the market. If not, quit whining.

It's not doom and gloom. It's unnecessary market declines brought about by the President's actions and tweets.
 
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Reynolds

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Really? Your rebuttal to my observations that Trump is affecting the market is that I should go with it and change my entire investing strategy?

The market was doing just fine and it should recover from Trump's stupid tariff policies and negative comments about US companies.



What records? The stock market is up about 14% since Trump was inaugurated. That's hardly a record for a 14 month period.

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It's not doom and gloom. It's unnecessary market declines brought about by the President's actions and tweets.
It has set its all time high under Trump. You obviously think the market Wii do well under Trump or you would short it. If you are confident Trump is tying the market, invest that way. The real good market players make more when the market corrects than they make when the bull is running.
 

InTheLight

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It has set its all time high under Trump. You obviously think the market Wii do well under Trump or you would short it. If you are confident Trump is tying the market, invest that way. The real good market players make more when the market corrects than they make when the bull is running.
You just keep ignoring any criticism that Trump is picking winners and losers, that he is bashing how companies run their businesses, that his tariffs could get us into a trade war and derail a worldwide economic recovery, that he signed a terrible spending bill. All of these actions have set the stock market back about 8% over the past two months. Your response? Ignore anything bad about Trump. Instead, you give me investing strategy to counteract Trump's negative influence.

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church mouse guy

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Postal rates on packages are unchanged in the last ten years so direct companies are getting a free ride. Bezos had his newspaper call Trump a dictator--which is silly. Bezos is another Soros.
 

InTheLight

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Postal rates on packages are unchanged in the last ten years so direct companies are getting a free ride. Bezos had his newspaper call Trump a dictator--which is silly. Bezos is another Soros.
As someone that uses the USPS package delivery service several times a week, and have for over 15 years, it most definitely has had price increases, typically every year.

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