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Unfair to Bush and $90 a barrel oil
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Who are the Bilderbergers?
They are the ones with the gold--yellow and black.
They make the rules in this materialistic world.
The time when one can neither buy nor sell without "the mark of the beast" is close to fruition.
Selah,
Bro. James
They are the ones with the gold--yellow and black.
They make the rules in this materialistic world.
The time when one can neither buy nor sell without "the mark of the beast" is close to fruition.
Selah,
Bro. James
KenH
Well-Known Member
The Bilderbergers are a boogeyman that it seems some people on the Extreme Right(and some with a gloom-and-doom eschatology) claim in their rants control EVERYTHING that goes on in the world - economically and politically. I became familiar with them when I subscribed to the old Extreme Right publication, "The Spotlight".
After subscribing for a while and not seeing any of the things that they claimed were going to happen actually happening, I did not resubscribe.
poncho
Well-Known Member
Yeah they meet secretly (well, not so secret anymore) once a year to discuss vacation plans over tea and crumpets. 
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 45 > § 953
§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments
Release date: 2005-08-03
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
SOURCE
Bilderberg Conference 2005
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 45 > § 953
§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments
Release date: 2005-08-03
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
SOURCE
Bilderberg Conference 2005
More doom and gloom:
"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness; looking
for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent? II Peter 3:9-12.
See also Rev. Ch. 16, 17.
It is only "gloomy and doomy' if one is lost.
Bought any stock in Enron lately?
Selah,
Bro. James
"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness; looking
for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent? II Peter 3:9-12.
See also Rev. Ch. 16, 17.
It is only "gloomy and doomy' if one is lost.
Bought any stock in Enron lately?
Selah,
Bro. James
I thought something like that too. Kind of like a recycled "Big Mac".
This oil thing is serious. Not only does the price of gasoline escalate, but also the prices of every thing which comes out of the oil patch goes up accordingly. All our plastic junk which we buy from overseas is going to cost more--domestic plastic stuff too. The cost of getting the plastic junk to Walmart is going up too. We live in a plastic world.
Are we headed for inflation like we have never seen? Maybe.
Selah,
Bro. James
This oil thing is serious. Not only does the price of gasoline escalate, but also the prices of every thing which comes out of the oil patch goes up accordingly. All our plastic junk which we buy from overseas is going to cost more--domestic plastic stuff too. The cost of getting the plastic junk to Walmart is going up too. We live in a plastic world.
Are we headed for inflation like we have never seen? Maybe.
Selah,
Bro. James
If oil is truly short then the best possible thing that could happen is high prices that will promote alternatives like ethanol.
Someone will have to play that political card soon. I suspect one side or the other will support manditory use of fuels with a higher percentage of ethanol. I think Missouri (GOP legislature and governor) are already moving in that direction for 10% ethanol.
I have personally been willing for some time to pay more for fuel that will profit American farmers instead of OPEC and friends.
Someone will have to play that political card soon. I suspect one side or the other will support manditory use of fuels with a higher percentage of ethanol. I think Missouri (GOP legislature and governor) are already moving in that direction for 10% ethanol.
I have personally been willing for some time to pay more for fuel that will profit American farmers instead of OPEC and friends.
KenH
Well-Known Member
Greed is a powerful force. It controls most of the population of this planet. Was it not the Apostle Paul who wrote: "The love of money is the root of all evil"?
We still have that malady--1900 years later. Now it is terminal.
Is there a fix?
The millenium.
Even so, come Lord Jesus.
Selah,
Bro. James
We still have that malady--1900 years later. Now it is terminal.
Is there a fix?
The millenium.
Even so, come Lord Jesus.
Selah,
Bro. James
The price of futures only matters to the people who buy and sell futures and has little to do with retail cost. A buyer of $90/bbl Dec oil will lose money if the consumer decides he is not willing to pay over $2.50/gal for gas.
As long as new 15 MPG cars are selling we don't know what Americans are willing to pay. I'm willing to pay $3.00 before I consider changing my life activities.
As long as new 15 MPG cars are selling we don't know what Americans are willing to pay. I'm willing to pay $3.00 before I consider changing my life activities.
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TexasSky
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The consumers often don't have a choice.
When I was in high school, gas was 50 cents a gallon. As it neared $1.00, we all swore we would stop driving if it passed $1.00 a gallon, but when it came down to it - - - the life and times of living in walking distance of your office passed many of us by years ago.
I have a "short commute" to the office, but I pondered 'walking' recently when I had car trouble. It wasn't a realistic pondering. Fifteen miles in and fifteen miles out, and not a "straight line" possible in the whole thing due to playa lakes, fenced off fields, etc., in the way.
Biking in my city is suicidal.
I'm actually more likely to be able to do it than friends in larger cities though. Imagine trying to walk to work in Dallas, Texas or Houston, Texas or Los Angelos, California.
When I was in high school, gas was 50 cents a gallon. As it neared $1.00, we all swore we would stop driving if it passed $1.00 a gallon, but when it came down to it - - - the life and times of living in walking distance of your office passed many of us by years ago.
I have a "short commute" to the office, but I pondered 'walking' recently when I had car trouble. It wasn't a realistic pondering. Fifteen miles in and fifteen miles out, and not a "straight line" possible in the whole thing due to playa lakes, fenced off fields, etc., in the way.
Biking in my city is suicidal.
I'm actually more likely to be able to do it than friends in larger cities though. Imagine trying to walk to work in Dallas, Texas or Houston, Texas or Los Angelos, California.
KenH
Well-Known Member
elijah_lives
New Member
"I have personally been willing for some time to pay more for fuel that will profit American farmers instead of OPEC and friends."
Amen! It's a pity to work 70-90 hours a week, and reap poverty wages. The entire basis of civilization is agriculture, and the answer to our energy problems are to be found there also. Perhaps we should not plant our crops for one year, and watch the consumer become educated on how valuable our services really are!
Amen! It's a pity to work 70-90 hours a week, and reap poverty wages. The entire basis of civilization is agriculture, and the answer to our energy problems are to be found there also. Perhaps we should not plant our crops for one year, and watch the consumer become educated on how valuable our services really are!
Before WW2 half of all Americans worked in some sort of food production and now it is less than 10%. Back then half of all Americans lived in poverty and spent half of their life's energy getting enough food to stay alive.
Fact is that the productivity of the food industru has increased by 90% or more and there are still to many farmers as evidenced by low food prices - as commodities and on the shelf. We could cut our food expenses by not buying prepared foods and eating out but we are probably spending less than 5% of gross income on food right now (no kids at home <G>.
Read someplace that the average home owner spends a rediculous amoount on his lawn ($250/year?) If he put that time and money into growing veggies in front of his house . . . nothing [snip - inappropriate contextual usage] (see Strong's) me off more than seeing well paid govt employees mowing lawns at welfare housing projects. The slugs should be growing potatos instead of watching the soaps.
[ August 18, 2005, 03:34 AM: Message edited by: C4K ]
Fact is that the productivity of the food industru has increased by 90% or more and there are still to many farmers as evidenced by low food prices - as commodities and on the shelf. We could cut our food expenses by not buying prepared foods and eating out but we are probably spending less than 5% of gross income on food right now (no kids at home <G>
.Read someplace that the average home owner spends a rediculous amoount on his lawn ($250/year?) If he put that time and money into growing veggies in front of his house . . . nothing [snip - inappropriate contextual usage] (see Strong's) me off more than seeing well paid govt employees mowing lawns at welfare housing projects. The slugs should be growing potatos instead of watching the soaps.
[ August 18, 2005, 03:34 AM: Message edited by: C4K ]
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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