It’s getting steeper for the unvaxxed
From $200 a month insurance bump to now unpaid leave for the religiously and medically unvaxxed.
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United Airlines Staff Who Get Religious Exemption From Covid Vaccine Mandate Will Need To Take Unpaid Leave
United Airlines Mandate
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Agent47, Sep 9, 2021.
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite SupporterStart with Biden….he needs to go away
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What, specifically, do you object to relative to this policy?
Do you not believe that employers have the right and the responsibility to ensure a safe workplace?
Many posters object to how all the vaccine rules and other restrictions impinge on freedom. Well, yes they do restrict freedom. And this is indeed unfortunate. However, freedom, while a value worth promoting, is not the only value to which reasonable people ascribe - we also care about promoting human physical well-being, i.e., preventing needless suffering and death.
I politely suggest that those opposed to the various restrictions that have descended upon us during this difficult time are engaging in subtle, and likely unconscious, distortion - they are taking what is really a complex, multi-dimensional issue and focusing solely on one aspect - freedom.
I am all for freedom, but I also want to be alive and healthy enough to enjoy it. -
I see it the same as smoking.
A person who smokes will pay higher insurance rates,
and rightly so.
Is that policy discrimination - YES, IT IS?
(this is what I call good discrimination)
(remember - discrimination is a neutral term)
But why should I have to pay for someone who practices an unhealthy lifestyle.
and likewise does a person have a right to work in a safe environment.
If you dont want the shot -then you pay extra. The only possible exception
would be someone who has a verified medical reason. -
I could understand requiring a vaccination to fly (given current science points to the effectiveness of the vaccines).
But I do not understand charging more. -
A private business can not discriminate based on other medical issues.
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Actually, they can. Obese travelers can be charged for two seats. People who are visibly sick can be denied travel if an infectious disease is suspected.
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I do not believe you - please cite your sources. I do not believe that any of these proposed measures violate any law.
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Try denying someone service because they are HIV or Hep C infected.
Not vaccinated is not taking up two seats. Not vaccinated is not evidence of infection. The vaxed spread Covid at just as high rate. If the bar has now been lowered so far that all the vax is supposed to do is protect you from serious illness, then the vax status of anyone other than yourself is meaningless. -
HIV and Hep C are Bloodborne Pathogens. They are not transmitted through casual contact.
A more realistic example would be "try banning someone a flight because they have Chickenpox or the measles". And they do. -
Try banning someone from the flight because they are not chicken pox vaccinated.
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The vax does not insure a person is not spreading Covid.
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I was addressing your comment that they cannot ban service for any other medical condition. You were mistaking.
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I agree. The article @Revmitchell posted demonstrated that vaccinated people are most likely to be asymptomatic while covid positive. It just makes the virus less dangerous to the vaccinated (and minimizes the production of varients).
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No. I was not mistaken. Just not clear enough. Not being vaccinated is not a communicable disease. It is a condition of ones medical history. It poses no threat to others. If the vaccines actually prevented Covid transmission the point could be argued.