Christ baptized the church into the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost while they were assembled in the upper room.
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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Reformed, May 5, 2018.
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Matthew 16:18 οἰκοδομήσω V-FIA-1S Future? When? When would the building begin? If it were built of stones, when would the first stone be laid?
τὴν ἐκκλησίαν ? the calling out unto ? (assembly)
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Three lots west of me, I assemble every Sunday morning, Sunday night and on Wednesdays also. However I was asking for the context of the word, ἐκκλησίαν, in Matt 16:18 which in the future of Matt 16 would be built.
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Acts 4:10,11
Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel: 2 Tim 2:8
Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;
Was that the first, assembled, the beginning of the church?
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. Col 1:18 KJV
And himself is the head of the body -- the assembly -- who is a beginning, a first-born out of the dead, that he might become in all things -- himself -- first, Col 1:18 YLT
I have stated many times, I know, no Greek. Is the understanding of the word ἐκκλησίαν inclusive of, "to," and or. "unto"?
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He was not a Charismatic, far as I know! -
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I must say that I am somewhat disappointed in your church theology, for I am one who was trained at Mid America Baptist Theological Seminary, that you give no credence to the "Trail of Blood" or the Landmark Baptist's positions! I am not sure you are a "real Baptist" if you do not believe we go back to Jesus Himself? LOL! FTR,(for the record) I do not hold to those two previous positions.
That should bring out the brethren who have a strong apologetic for the afore espoused doctrinal positions.
Can we talk?!
sdg!
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- Luke 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask
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