Universal's Flight 93 'Hijacked' By Truth Seekers

[poncho]

We apologize for the removal of the message boards - due to technical difficulties all previous threads have been inadvertantly deleted. We invite you to renew your dialog and discuss your thoughts on the film.

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Universal Studio's Flight 93 movie online forum has been completely infiltrated by people opposing the official government 9/11 fable and its moderators are having to delete entire threads in real time deeming them, "inappropriate."

The Watson Report

[ May 02, 2006, 11:57 PM: Message edited by: LadyEagle ]

 

[poncho]

Warning: there is an "inappropriate" link in this thread. Universal Studio's Flight 93 movie discussion forum has some bad language in it. I've yet to find any "inappropriate" graphics after a couple day of searching but it's probably best you not allow any two year olds to read to far into any of the threads there.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

To be exact, there is at least one thread there where a pervert posted a very crude picture <edited - LE>. This is, btw, the same forum which was deleted a few days ago in the News Forum.

Joseph Botwinick

[ May 03, 2006, 12:00 AM: Message edited by: LadyEagle ]

 

[poncho]

Yes it's the same mainstream entertainment (Universal Studios Flight 93 discussion forum) link that was deleted in another thread. They must have deleted the thread that graphic was in like they did so many of the others that weren't falling for this propaganda picture. Maybe if you report this post it will be deleted too Joseph, that's one way of putting the truth, as in you are in the minority of public opinion on 911 out of mind.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

It is still there. It is as disgusting as the stupid conspiracy theory propogated by the majority of the idiots on that site. It is on the second page of the thread titles, "Post your sites for when this place goes down".

Joseph Botwinick

 

[LadyEagle]

Originally posted by poncho:
Warning: there is an "inappropriate" link in this thread. Universal Studio's Flight 93 movie discussion forum has some bad language in it. I've yet to find any "inappropriate" graphics after a couple day of searching but it's probably best you not allow any two year olds to read to far into any of the threads there.

Please do not post inappropriate links where there is foul language, sexual content, or obscene pictures. This is a family board. This was the same link that was deleted in the News Forum. Thank you for your cooperation.

Lady Eagle
Moderator

 

[poncho]

Thanks for pointing it out to us Joseph I must have missed it. Actually I didn't even check that thread out. Didn't see the need really as I figure the sites that were probably posted were infowars, prison planet and others trying to get the fully documented truth out.

Conspiracy theorists may be idiots Joseph but they got something the coincidence theorists don't, mainly truckloads of documentation to back up their theories and they do make up the majority of opinion around the world. The globalists are worried and for good reason, the truth about them is getting out. Big time!

And now with the staged "immigration reform" marches that are taking place the culprits orchestrating it all have tipped their hand. Nobody is buying their anti American pro globalist propaganda anymore, except for maybe a few still wearing rose colored glasses.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

LE,

Thanks for editing out the vulgarity and even for editing my post. I should not have posted a description of the vulgarity here in public. For that I apologize.

I now leave this thread for the lunatics and nuts who want to spit on the graves of the dead.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[poncho]

Does that mean you'll still be rooting for the future deaths of many others so the global elite can concentrate their riches power and control over the masses Joseph?

 

[Phillip]

Originally posted by poncho:
Does that mean you'll still be rooting for the future deaths of many others so the global elite can concentrate their riches power and control over the masses Joseph?

Why don't you just become one of the rich elite and take over the world, Poncho? Obviously, you have access to so much more intel than anybody else. With that type of information you could run the world.

 

[Plain Old Bill]

Ponchos posts read like the chinese propoganda that used to come across our lines at the embassy in Tiawan.

 

[Phillip]

Since you were at the embassy in Taiwan, I'm sure you have already heard everything Poncho has to say.

 

[poncho]

Originally posted by Phillip:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by poncho:
Does that mean you'll still be rooting for the future deaths of many others so the global elite can concentrate their riches power and control over the masses Joseph?

Why don't you just become one of the rich elite and take over the world, Poncho? Obviously, you have access to so much more intel than anybody else. With that type of information you could run the world.

</font>[/QUOTE]I read the elites books and papers (Machiavelli, Strauss, Michael Ledeen, who loves both Machiavelli and Strauss so much so that he wrote a book to show his love of Machiavelli, government documents that have been declassified, presidential EXOs, the CFR's and Trilateral's papers and essays. I've read Julius Ceasar's book on the conquering of Gaul, the Campaigns of Napoleon, I've studied propaganda by Edward Bernays, Joseph Goebbels, and Rob Allyn of Rob Allyn & Co. Bush and Vicente Fox's favorite pr guy that is helping to engineer the "immgration marches". I've looked at who owns the media. I've read as many of America's founding fathers written words as I can find, I've checked out court cases going back to the "Sloop Betty Glass" in 1798 where the judge declares that "in America, the people are the sovereigns" big difference from the liberal globalists you guys idolize and make excuses for today eh? I've spent endless hours in the archives of news outlets piecing stories together from start to finish, probably while your still surfing the channels.

I could go on and on Phillip but I think you get the point, while everyone else has been living from news cycle to news cycle and flipping through the first two pages of the papers and listening to Bill O'Reilly I've been trying to educate myself. I've given you every chance to do the same and even tried to make it easy on you by posting links to the biggest archives of mainstream news articles there is, it isn't my fault you have chosen to overlook this wealth of information because it just happens to be on a website that has flashing propaganda and the truth of it all right out front. That's your choice.

Ponchos posts read like the chinese propoganda that used to come across our lines at the embassy in Tiawan.

No offense POB but imho if you could really recognize propaganda for what it is you'd be in my camp instead of the corporate fascist's.

Besides the Holy Bible the best piece I've ever read is the Declaration of Independence. Our founders were fighting the same kind of tyranny from people just like you guys all make excuses for today. So, how's it my fault you guys haven't chose to get educated and defend your country and constitution? You have the same tools as I do, how come you don't use them?

[ May 03, 2006, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: poncho ]

 

[poncho]

I'd just like to add that I find it extremely strange and hard to fathom that you guys haven't taken the opportunity to educate yourselves, I mean most of you from what I have read in your posts are much smarter than me by far, why it takes a dumb glazier acting all by his lonesome to filter through all the propaganda to find the reality of the situation America and the world is in today is beyond even my powers of comprehension.

Phillip, you seem to have a wonderful mind for detail and a great way with words, so it's really hard for me to understand why you would take the side of globalists that are destroying our country and selling it off to foreign powers, dismantling our sovereignty as a nation and using our own resources to bring all this about?

It must be the ole "outside threat" thing that all tyrants throughout history have used to bring their populations under control and enslave them has gotten you so scared that you can't think straight or something.

I'd just once like to see you guys that say you are all patriotic and love America so much and such actually stick up for this country instead of the imposters posing as our government. But that's just me. Guess I'll be waiting awhile for all that huh?

 

[Daisy]

There's a book out by Michael Shermer on why people believe stupid or weird things. It seems that smart people are no more less likely to believe stupid things, but they are much better at rationalizing reasons for it.

 

[poncho]

That must be my problem Daisy, I'm not smart enough to rationalize away that huge moutain of evidence that shows our government has been co opted by corporate fascists in the military industrial complex.

It must be me, I mean I spent I don't how many hours trying to figure out all those isms like communism fascism socialism conservatism liberalism etc., made my head ache staring at this screen for hours on end just so I could come here and debate politics, imagine my surprise when I found people here actually supporting Trotskyites and fascists as though they're some kind of a good thing for America and the world. And wonder of wonders they call me crazy (among other things) for not supporting them too!

I guess that because I refuse to support the Trotskyite neocon's perpetual revolution and Mussolini's corporatism like most Bush supporters here do I'm not to be considered a good American.

Ah well, I can live with that.

 

[Phillip]

Originally posted by poncho:
It must be the ole "outside threat" thing that all tyrants throughout history have used to bring their populations under control and enslave them has gotten you so scared that you can't think straight or something.

Who Me, scared? Nah.

Is there corruption in the U.S.? Sure. There's corruption, at some level, everywhere there are human beings, including most churches (sad to say). But, America has a unique governing system that was set up well by our fore-fathers. There are checks and balances that did not exist in ancient Rome, Greece or even Nazi Germany.

You may see comparisons in the historical material you have read, but you must admit that never in history has a country with the type of government the U.S. ever existed. So, although history repeats itself, certain constants just not in place for most of the theories discussed here to be possible.

I will say; however, that America is headed for major problems with the liberal issues that are moving us further from God. If America does, eventually fall, this will be the reason.

I am personally more concerned about issues such as this along with the way our kids are being educated (or the lack thereof), the drugs, the lifestyles, etc. than I am a rogue president trying to take over the world. Think about it...congress cannot even get along with itself, let alone back a president who becomes leader of the world. Businesses are so cutthroat that if they compete for leadership of the world, they will all loose.

My point is, there are many issues that we, as Christians, need to be concerned about and the least of which is believing that our country would actually attack itself in order to pass a "Homeland Security" bill. We can say what we want, but I have YET to hear one single REAL story about a person who has actually lost their rights over the security involved in the war against terrorism.

I for one, feel much safer when I go to the local airport to take a trip across the country, knowing that everybody has been thoroughly searched, that there are armed agents aboard the planes along with other security measures that we won't discuss here.

This is just my take on things and the answer to your question, Poncho.

 

[poncho]

Good answer Phillip. I can only add that I'm worried about the liberal agenda too. The thing is the same people that fund and push it also own the media including Fox news, and just about every other major corporation and are tied to same central bank going back to the International Bank of Settlements. The whole left right paradigm is an invention of the same people.

Our freedom and freedom in general is the enemy of tyrants always has been it's a threat to their total control of the masses. The elite have always treated their peasants like cattle they haven't changed they just got smart went underground with their secret societies and infiltrated, divided and conquered over and over always working to monopolize everything, the monetary systems, the food production, the medicines, the water, the oil, the electric, governments everything. Now they control, just between two families an estimated 75 perecent of the whole world. The Rothschilds own about 50% the Rokefellers own about 25%. That's consolidated brother!

It's always the same plays by the same players.

The Hegelian dialectic...Thesis + Anti thesis = synthesis.

Problem reaction solution...create a problem that will evoke the proper reaction and then propose the solution that has already been settled on before the creation of the problem.

and

Order out of chaos. Example Iraq, the CFR has wanted a "three state solution" in Iraq for years. Their puppets George W. Bush and Donald Rumsfeld goes to Iraq wages war lets it if not helps it spiral into chaos then all of a sudden the controlled opposition the CFR controlled democrats offers us the "only sensable solution" ...the same three state soultion that they wanted all along.

Another coincidence?

And we can't forget the ole stand by of tyrants and emperors down through history...divde and conquer like what the Corporate Bush Allyn Vicente Fox and the controlled media alliance are trying to do between the anglos and the hispanics now. We already know how easy it is for them to activate the Muslim masses to riot, a few cartoons and their off and burning barnd new Danish flags that just happen to be laying around by the thousands in all the Muslim countries within easy reach and camera shot of the major news outlets. Yeah okay, another coincidence.

They want to erase the borders here and bring on their police state, North American Community, and socialists world government. Race riots and cross border warfare is just the ticket to cause the chaos they need to get us to accept their solution.

Our government has been co opted by at least one global criminal cartel not including their partners/clients like China and Suadi Arabia. It's way way beyond simple corruption Phillip.

While we've been busy enjoying Ceasar's bread and games he has quitely staged a coup and is in control of our federal government. Now he's busy balkanizing us and molding our opinions using the same old plays he has used forever.

To realize his ultimate goal of a one world communist government. I'm not down with all that Phillip and I see no reason biblical or otherwise why I or anyone else should just roll over and let him have it without a struggle.

Now if you are going to cite Romans 13 to me save your fingers, it says nothing about obeying any global criminal factions that co opt our ligitimate government wrap themselves in our flag start an imperial mobilization to dominate the world and activly work to destroy our way of life and seize our public and private assets and those of every other country on the planet.

I'd feel better if the pilots and every other law abiding citizen that got on any plane were packin heat. All that searching and prodding does is condition you to except more and more tyranny from the state.

Oh yeah I almost forgot, Universal studios shut down the Flight 93 disscusion forum again. Guess they couldn't stand the heat from the "conspiracy theorists" that took it over. The people have spoken their mind about that Pentagon propaganda piece.

[ May 05, 2006, 05:14 AM: Message edited by: poncho ]

 

[poncho]

My point is, there are many issues that we, as Christians, need to be concerned about and the least of which is believing that our country would actually attack itself in order to pass a "Homeland Security" bill. We can say what we want, but I have YET to hear one single REAL story about a person who has actually lost their rights over the security involved in the war against terrorism.

Well there now you see Phillip if you had gone into those archives I told about and even posted the links to hundreds of times here on BB you could have read article after article of people's rights being violated and being intimidated by the feds, all these come from the mainstream media, they just happen to be archived on sites you consider as "conspiracy sites". The MSM routinely "washes them out" of their archives. They don't want you to be able put the big picture together that's all.

These things are reported on everyday, they just don't make the cut to get on the little screen at Fox and CNN and if they do they get maybe three or four seconds airtime and spun to sound like it's just those "evil leftist anti war isolationist unpatriotic conspiracy theorists" complaining again.

 

[poncho]

I made a mistake in saying that the Rothschilds amd Rockefellers own own 75% of the world, I should have said together it's estimated they control 75% of the worlds wealth. Still that's some kind of consolidation. I just read an article in Yahoo news about Bill Gates wishing some times that he wasn't the richest person in the world. Well, he should take heart then, because when compared to the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Queen Beatrice and the British royal family he's a mere pauper.

Wonder how come Forbes and Fortune never list the real richest people in the world in their magazines?