Vaccine Passports

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  1. Reynolds Well-Known Member
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    And you could easily exempt out of college immunizations.
    You are way too willing to sacrifice liberty.
    The slippery slope "fallacy" is in fact true. "Conservative" Christians like you are going to soon look back up that slope and wonder what happened!
     
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    This is not true.

    The unvaccinated have a choice but are depriving the vaccinated of freedom. They are holding the nation hostage. The solution is to allow freedom and move on.

    Another issue is insurance. Why should the vaccinated pay higher premiums to cover those who choose to be higher risks?

    Unvax = socialism.
     
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    Vax don't work well. I agree with that. I should not be robbed of my freedom because a bunch of y'all will give away liberty because you are terrified of a SCAMdemic. You are willing to give the central govt a massive power grab because you are skeered.
     
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    Vaxed equals socialism.
    A choice. You have the "choice" to take the mark as well. You really think that coerced choice is compatible with the liberty our founders envisioned?
     
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    It is not sacrificing liberty to be vaccinated. You are arguing "slippery slope", which is illogical.

    Christians should put the well being of other people over their "secular liberty".

    You argue that you should have the choice of being vaccinated. I agree.

    But then you argue other people should be forced to potentially suffer the consequences of your decisions.

    You are not talking about freedom and liberty here. You are talking about depriving other people of freedom.
     
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    Forced vaccination is socialistic. I agree.

    But that is not what we are talking about. We are talking about you exercising your "right" to potentially endanger other people.

    If somebody does not want the shot that is fine. But those of us who ate responsible should not have to suffer consequences for their decisions.
     
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    Vaccines have been proven effective, not only in clinical trials but in "real life".

    I am not worried at all about the pandemic. I am vaccinated. I am more concerned about the unvaccinated holding our nation back.

    Let people decide. But the unvaccinated need to stop insisting others have to ay the consequences for their decisions.

    It is time for our nation to move forward. The unvaccinated can make their own decisions. We should not have to wait, to sacrifice our freedoms for their choices. I say open everything back up, full capacity, and require proof of vaccination to participate.
     
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    Wrap yourself in the flag. That is really going to work for you . Try reality. This thing will not just go away because you deny it.
     
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    Well some of you may not be able to look back up the slope. I agree with JonC if you do not want it don't get it but just stop complaining. Deal with the restrictions.
     
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    You are playing word games. Coercion and force are one in the same. They overlap in most their scales.
     
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    Fine. You are worried about the vaccine. If yall actually thought it worked, you would open up and eliminate allus knuckle draggers who are holding all you enlightened, Covid Capitulating friends of Tyrany back.
     
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    Y'all Covid Capitulating traitors go wallow in the mud at the bottom of the slope. I have had Covid twice and am more immune to Delta, G and Mu than any of you freedom forfeiting jab takers.

    I have no problem with those who take the vax. I view those who support coerced vax as traitors.
     
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    Funny you should say that as your the one that wants everyone to think the way you do. That is not freedom. Allowing people to make up their own mind is freedom.
    Your logic is skewed.
     
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    Why do that when we can just bring in the passport restrictions and then we don't have to worry about you knuckle draggers. :rolleyes:
     
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    I am not trying to stop anyone from getting vaxed. You are trying to force the vax.
     
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    Logic is indeed in my side. Communism is on your side.
     
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    Coerced free choice is not free choice.
     
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    No....AGAIN....I am not worried about any vaccines. I am vaccinated.

    I am concerned about the unvaccinated effectively stripping away the rights of people, denying nations freedom, and hijacking economies.

    Nobody is making people take a shot. But we should also not be made to join in the risky decisions of others.

    Let the unvaccinated remain unvaccinated if they want. But as a nation it is time to ignore them and move forward. Require proof of vaccines for large venues (malls, concerts, indoor sports, etc ) and for air travel. Font force vaccinations but also don't allow ourselves to be held hostage by the unvaccinated. Move on.

    The vaccine has been proven safe and effective. Not to many unvaccinated....but who cares. Let them make up their own minds as we move forward without them.
     
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    That fits right into your Communist plan.
     
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    Who coerced you to be vaccinated?

    The issue is not coercion but the unvacvinated who want to force employers, businesses, and vaccinated people to bow to their wants.