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Virus and Vaccine Experts and "Experts"

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by JonC, Oct 13, 2021.

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  1. percho

    percho Well-Known Member
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    #81 percho, Oct 22, 2021
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    Please post the thread and post number so that I can see the context.

    As it stands, I have to say you are questionable at best.
     
    #82 JonC, Oct 22, 2021
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    It's in a PM. You want it posted?

    I am not sure what you mean by I am questionable at best. I guess I really don't care.
     
    #83 Reynolds, Oct 22, 2021
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  4. JonC

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    No need. That was a pm and it was a tongue in cheek response from your comment that a member " was getting stupid" by denying science.

    I responded that I guess I'm a troll and just played on from there. You said my responses to the member was making him sin by tempting him, that he was too easy to fire up. I replied it was too fun.

    But I meant those responses to be tongue and cheek.

    That is why I asked for the context. I thought it was the pm.
     
    #84 JonC, Oct 22, 2021
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    You were being.literal. I had asked you to lay off Mitchel because you seemed to be trying to provoke him to sin. I said that because you had previously admitted to purposefully antagonizing him and intentionally taking the Covid thing way to far. It was not tongue and cheek.
     
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  6. JonC

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    No. You get to tell me what you mean, what you believe, etc.

    But you do not get to tell me what I mean.

    It was a pm and I was pretty much enjoying a conversation. You called a member stupid and I was simply working off of that. Kinda like when a person confuses Paul with Peter and you simply let it go, make a bit of small talk.

    It was tongue in cheek....a bit of friendly banter. I do that sometimes. When a person says something that I think a bit over the top I just take credit for the issue and change the topic.

    That is why the private conversation you and I were having often shifted to fishing.

    Those who have engaged me on pm's know this of me. So you may trick a few here but there are many who know better.

    That is why pm's are private (why there could have been an issue with you gossiping about a pm on the public forum). But I don't mind so it is OK (you obviously didn't mind, I don't, so no rule violated).

    I use pm's more for fellowship than seriously debating issues or people.

    What I posted on the public forum is not trolling. Now that you know this it will be lying to say otherwise.

    I do believe the anti-covid-vaxers are crossing a line when they say owners cannot make decisions for their companies. And I believe they are knowingly dishonest when they pretend employers are making health decisions for employees.
     
    #86 JonC, Oct 23, 2021
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    I have some pm’s too, from a banned member. He told me to use it should I desire. Was permission given to Jon to divulge pm’s? The state of this board deteriorates by the minute. Sad.
     
    #87 Wingman68, Oct 23, 2021
  8. JonC

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    The question is was permission given to @Reynolds. The answer is no. But I allowed it so it is fine. @Reynolds opened up the pm on the public forum (and you know this).

    I would caution about discussing pm's on the open forum. They are typically no better than gossip. @Reynolds was wrong to do it, but I liked him so I overlooked the violation. I know that's subjective, but I believe him to be an honest person.
     
    #88 JonC, Oct 23, 2021
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    Wow. What a guy.
     
    #89 Wingman68, Oct 23, 2021
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    Yea. He shouldn't have opened up a private message on the public forum. But I don't think he meant any harm.
     
    #90 JonC, Oct 23, 2021
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    I guess in liberal world two wrongs make a right. When a liberal is part of that equation, his wrong is even righter. Celebrate!
     
    #91 Wingman68, Oct 23, 2021
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    No. He opened up the conversation on the forum. He even offered to post screen shots. So he does not mind either.

    And @Reynolds is not a liberal. He and I pretty much agree on politics. We disagree about the covid vaccine.
     
    #92 JonC, Oct 23, 2021
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    Yeah, I wasn’t talking about Reynolds being liberal….but you know that. Let’s go to motive, shall we? He was trying to make things better, apparently. You use that information to further your ‘vendetta’ against another member. Schmoozing only works with those who want to be schmoozed. Save it.
     
    #93 Wingman68, Oct 23, 2021
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    On the open forum, You have eluded to the fact that you purposefully antagonize. I honestly think you have taken it way too far with the vaccine and especially with Mitchell.
    Mitchell and I agree on most political issues, but it's no secret the two of us disagree ( especially in the past) on a personal level. He has said some not so nice stuff to me and I have said some nasty stuff to him. No secret there. You have just taken it too far with him. Your goal is not to change his mind, your goal is to provoke him. (Way I see it anyway)
     
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    I understand you think I argued my position a little too much with @Revmitchell , but I have known Revmitchell for a long time and can tell you he can take care of himself.

    My goal, as is (IMHO) @Revmitchell 's goal, is to argue our views.
     
    #95 JonC, Oct 23, 2021
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    The goal post is moving all over the field. He can take care of himself. You are missing the point. We as antivax are all a group. I think you trolling all of us and trolling the position in general. He is the one person I can prove you trolled. You are intentionally being inflammatory to us as a group. I can only prove your actions against him as an individual.
     
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    I disagree.

    That would be like saying I, having been vaccinated, can be treated as a representative of a vax group.

    You are an individual. You speak for you. @Revmitchell is an individual and he speaks for himself.

    You cannot prove I have trolled anybody because I have not. I disagree with a lot if his posts, but I argue my positions against all of you guys pretty much equally.

    Now, you can say that I have trolled him, and you may believe actually believe it (although I doubt you really do considering I argued against you and wingman more than I have Revmitchell).

    But you saying something, even believing it, does not make it true.

    When it comes to my motivations/ beliefs I am the expert and you the child playing make believe.
     
    #97 JonC, Oct 23, 2021
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    At this point neither I nor many others care about your view. You have gone out of your way to make it about how you talk to and about people on this board. You have called me evil, socialist and called others on this board fools. The admin seems to want to allow it when you do it. There is a double standard around here lately and you are at the center of it.


    You guys set a rule about how board members talk about the President in a supposed attempt to keep the tempature down around here. But you have done more to raise it than all the talk about Presidents.

    There was some talk by you about stepping down as a moderator . Shame you didn’t. Your dishonest twisting of peoples meaning in what they post has completely discredited you. I put people on ignore after 10 or more personal attacks. I would have put you on ignore long time ago. Except your a mod and I can’t.

    I made an attempt to ignore your posts on my own and avoid you but you can’t seem to help yourself from constantly mentioning me even long after I’ve ignored you. You are obsessed with the vaccine and attacking anyone who doesn’t agree with you. Half the time your posts make little sense because you try to find a way to have it both ways on any given issue.

    I don’t know what you are conservative, liberal, moderate who knows. I do know too many posts of your lack’s integrity and has already been sis’s you move the goal posts at will when you get backed into a corner. Then you pretend that’s the way you always intended it. We all know better.

    Maybe you just need a break or to go talk with someone to get some things worked out. It seems you have lost all shame.

    whatever you do I’d appreciate if you avoid me. Don’t quote me, don’t mention me, just leave me alone. You aren’t someone I want to engage wit at this point. I just don’t need your trolling behavior.
     
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    You admitted it. In plain English. You were not kidding. Context proved you were not. I don't think you are a bad person, but you have become tunnel vision vaccine obsessed.
    I am done with this. It is not worth it. "Rules for me and rules for thee" gets old fast.
     
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    Be fair....you never cared about my view. I was here before you and we have both been here a long time. We all know the only view you have ever cared about is your own.

    That said, do not lie and say my behavior constitutes trolling. @Reynolds said that from a tongue in cheek comment I made on a pm when he called you stupid.

    You call anybody a troll that disagrees with you. But the fact is I have just as much a right to argue against you as you have to argue against me.

    OR were you trolling me when you responded to my posts???
     
    #100 JonC, Oct 23, 2021
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