Webster:
volition
noun vo·li·tion \vō-ˈli-shən, və-\
Definition of volition
Romans 7:
- 1 : an act of making a choice or decision; also : a choice or decision made
- 2 : the power of choosing or determining : will
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Paul's volition was in play here, his will that which he would no allow he did, that is the sin he preached against he did, not by God making him or forcing him but because of his own determined will. He fell and sinned, does that mean he lost his salvation, God forbid.
Yet it proves very clearly God gave us volition a human will. Paul uses
θέλω (thelō)
Strong: G2309
GK: G2527
to exercise the will, properly by an unimpassioned operation; to be willing, Mt. 17:4; to be inclined, disposed, Rom. 13:3; to choose, Lk. 1:62; to intend, design, Lk. 14:28; to will, Jn. 5:21; 21:22; ἤθελον, I could wish, Gal. 4:20
See everywhere thelō appears in the New Testament via teknia.com.
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God placed in man free will, volition thelō, we must use thelō every day. When it comes to salvation thelō must also be utilized. Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. The whosoever will, the word will is "thelō" whosoever exercises his will that would be in faith, let him drink freely the water of life. God leaves the choice of Placing Faith in Christ up to the individual and whosoever exercises thelō that is, is willing, inclined chooses may come to Christ for salvation can do so!
Volition
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by revmwc, Apr 25, 2017.
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Volition is the ability to make a choice. People, all people, make choices every day.
Free will is not addressing volition. Free will is addressing sin and the sinful nature of mankind.
Free will is a misnomer in that the will of the lost man is not free. It is in bondage to the law of sin and death.
Think of a man in prison. He has volition. He can make choices.
He can make a choice what book he wants to read from the library cart.
He can make a choice of whether or not he wants to eat lunch.
He can make a choice of whether or not he plays basketball in the prison yard.
He just can't leave. He is in bondage to the law of the land, which he broke. He is free to make choices but he is not free to live outside the prison walls.
The lost man is free to make choices. All sorts of choices. But he is not free to live outside the consequences of sin and death.
That kind of freedom comes only by the Grace of Almighty God. :) -
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God called a wicked man named Saul and chose to save Him because...God chose to save Him. There was nothing about Saul that was worthy of God's grace. This is the same for you and me and all humankind. We are rebels who are naturally antagonistic to God. -
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God forces? Where do you see Reformed people say God forces anyone to do anything? "I have DRAWN YOU with MY LOVE", does that sound like force? When we win a wife, do we force her or do we win her over with Love?
Here's the bottom line on will, we have will, limited to be sure, but God has FREE WILL, and is much more powerful than ours, is perfect, is free, and does all that He please among men, even the Pagan King Nebuchadnezzar knew this fact of our God, yet we don't? Our will is limited by the choices we have, and ULTIMATELY we'll always choose what we think will benefit us most, meditate on that, well read scripture on it, but it's self evident, we always choose our highest good, and if slaves to sin, we'll always choose sin as the unregenerate's highest good is sin, they are slaves to it and are not "Able to please God".
Whenever I see a post where God "Makes us", I know there is great misunderstanding. I'd recommend Luthers "Bondage of the Will", his response to Roman Church top apologist Erasmus "Freedom of the will". Arminians and Catholics have that in common, both are synergists, as are the rest of Religion in the world, only Biblical Christianity teaches Monergism.
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I think a good answer to Free Will, aside from direct bible quotations that we do not have free will, is that first God has free will, and which do you think wins out? Second if we had traditional free will, it's possible God could have never had Christ crucified, what if in their FREE WILL they always made Him King, or if Pilate in His free will just said "I'm in charge, He goes free", then what? Would God have to TRY AGAIN, HOPE THOSE FREE WILL PEOPLE FINALLY KILL MY SON?
Acts 4 couldn't be more clear, God PREDESTINED the Jews, Romans, Pilate, Judas to conspire and kill His own Son, Isaiah 53 says "It pleased the Lord to bruise Him", wait I thought the people did it, yes the people did it by picking their highest good that they were capable of, just like with Joseph, "You meant THAT EVENT for evil, God meant THAT SAME EVENT for good.
God willing they'll study and God's Spirit will open their eyes.
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B — 1: πρόγνωσις
(Strong's #4268 — Noun Feminine — prognosis — prog'-no-sis )
B — 1: πρόγνωσις
(Strong's #4268 — Noun Feminine — prognosis — prog'-no-sis )
"a foreknowledge" (akin to A.), is used only of Divine "foreknowledge," Acts 2:23 ; 1 Peter 1:2 . "Foreknowledge" is one aspect of omniscience; it is implied in God's warnings, promises and predictions. See Acts 15:18 . God's "foreknowledge" involves His electing grace, but this does not preclude human will. He "foreknows" the exercise of faith which brings salvation. The Apostle Paul stresses especially the actual purposes of God rather than the ground of the purposes, see, e.g., Galatians 1:16 ; Ephesians 1:5,11 . The Divine counsels will ever be unthwartable. Cp. FORESHEW.
"a foreknowledge" (akin to A.), is used only of Divine "foreknowledge," Acts 2:23 ; 1 Peter 1:2 . "Foreknowledge" is one aspect of omniscience; it is implied in God's warnings, promises and predictions. See Acts 15:18 . God's "foreknowledge" involves His electing grace, but this does not preclude human will. He "foreknows" the exercise of faith which brings salvation. The Apostle Paul stresses especially the actual purposes of God rather than the ground of the purposes, see, e.g., Galatians 1:16 ; Ephesians 1:5,11 . The Divine counsels will ever be unthwartable. Cp. FORESHEW.
So we see the word prognosis, per mounce:1 Peter 1:2 elect according to kata the foreknowledge prognōsis of God theos the Father patēr by en being set apart hagiasmos by the Spirit pneuma for eis obedience hypakoē and kai for sprinkling rhantismos with the blood haima of Jesus Iēsous Christ Christos. May grace charis and kai peace eirēnē be yours hymeis in ever increasing measure plēthunō.
Election is determined upon what God foreknew, per Vine "God's "foreknowledge" involves His electing grace, but this does not preclude human will. He "foreknows" the exercise of faith which brings salvation. The Apostle Paul stresses especially the actual purposes of God rather than the ground of the purposes. So let's look at something based on this, John 3:18 states, 18 "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." Anyone who truly believes on Christ is not condemned, those who believe not are condemned already, God knows who will and who will not believe on the Son. He foreknows "the exercise of faith which brings salvation." That comes faith comes from, thelō being put into action, those who believe that is those who GOD foreknows will believe on the son and thus they are elected, set apart by the Spirit. Elect as children of God based on what God knows as Vines put's it "Foreknowledge" is one aspect of omniscience;". So election is based upon God's Omniscience in being a God who knows all things including who will and who will not believe. Thus not one person is forced to believe but drawn of the Spirit to believe. -
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God Preloved us, He Preloved Paul, Isaiah, and all of God's elect, the distinction is needed for He did NOT ForeLOVE the unregenerate.
And please don't try my patience, do your own study, thanks -
God foreknew Hos own from eternity past in the sense that He was directly determining that we would be getting saved, as he knew us in a covenant relationship!
And acts addresses BOTh aspects of death of Christ, as God determined that Messiah would die by the Cross, isaiah 53, and he used sinners "willing" to do that very act! -
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29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
What most who follow Tulip will say is Whom He did preordained those He also Preordained. However it actually reads Those whom He knew beforehand those He also preordained. -
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