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Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by SGO, Jul 31, 2021.

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  1. JonC

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    They were not healthy. They had covid.
     
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    Healthy other than Covid. The same number of unhealthy, old, etc. Die every year. The healthy (other than Covid) would necessitate an increase in the death rate, if they are really dying. The numbers have to be somewhere.
     
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    There was a 20% increase.
     
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    In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths occurred in the US.

    In 2019 the number was 2,854,838.

    In 2018 it was 2,830,205.

    These are not the same.



    There is an article about "fake news" explaining how the anti-vax agenda manipulated the numbers for propaganda, but I didn't read it (you may want to).
     
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    You're always welcomed to your opinion no matter how bizarre it seems, JonC....nobody's going to try and take your point of view away from you or force something you don't want on your person...too bad the vax worshippers can't be as courteous!
     
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    Most can be (I certainly can - it is an individual decision).

    BUT it is dishonest for anti-vaxers to say the CDC is hiding these side effects when it is right there on their website (all you have to do is click on side effects) .


    What I do not like is the dishonesty (on all sides).
     
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    After all the horse-puckey the CDC has put out, and the numerous back and forth flips they've done...do you TRULY expect anyone to take these clowns seriously? Get real, JonC!
     
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    I don't care how people take the CDC. I don't trust them. So I don't hold your distrust of them against you.

    But the claim anti-vaxers have made is that the government has hid the side effects. All this while they are very easily accessible on the CDC websitecand the pharmaceutical websites. It is an anti-vax lie.

    And now anti-vaxers look at 3,358,814 deaths and 2,854,838, claiming they are equal!

    The agenda is dishonest, that's all.

    And to demonstrate this agenda, consider how you refer to people that make the choice to get a vaccine as "vaccine worshippers". Do you seriously not get that your choice of words is nothing but propaganda for the "sheeple"?
     
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    Is there a redirect of dishonesty towards me in there, Jon??? Eh??? I certainly hope not, because that's one thing I'm NOT! I've nowhere stated that side effects are hidden. At any rate...I wouldn't take the vax if it WERE mandated. It's my body, not the "collective consciousness" of any peoples. They don't live in my body, nor do I live in theirs....I'm just using their mantra..."My body..My choice!"
     
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    I do agree that if they're saying the side effects aren't listed, they're lying. I don't believe it lists all of them, nor the severity of the ones that are listed. I have too many friends, acquaintances, and family members who have suffered side-effects far worse than what the CDC, WHO, and the NIH have listed.

    I'm not totally anti-vax...but I am when they haven't been RIGOROUSLY tested by a third party...companies will lie to promote their product if they have the chance and won't give the full details. This has been proven time and time again with companies like J&J, pfizer and others. Moderna apparently hadn't ever made a vaccine before this, and that's a HUGE reason not to trust them.
     
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    No. Not a redirect to you.

    I'm just saying the anti- vax camp complaining about the pro-vax camp in regards to data manipulation and obscuring facts is the pot calling the kettle black - and people suffer on both sides.

    People should be able to consider facts, but with this vaccine (perhaps because of politics) both sides try to trick people into making a decision rather than allowing them to make an educated choice.

    I do not mind people getting vaccinated or not getting vaccinated. It should be their choice as both sides will live (or die) with that decision.
     
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    I agree about the testing issue (this is also posted on the CDC website).

    Moderna tested mRNA technology in 2017. They have developed over 20 vaccines (flu, HIV, etc.).
     
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