The floor is yours Bob. Teach us how John 9:41 relates to Isaiah 66, and why Isaiah 66 is speaking of Christians who eat pork are going to be damned to hell.
Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by BobRyan, Feb 17, 2018.
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Why keep posting against the text of scripture??
Creative writing again?
Try this... "read" .. I did not even mention pork... I mentioned mice.
I said this -- Isaiah 66 says someone is going to burn in hell for eating mice... you knew that right?
Look "again".
read.
It is you that posts "nonstop pork"
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All your vitriol over the fact that "I notice" that Isaiah 66 talks about eating mice and I state that I notice it - in my post.
How sad....
How "instructive" for the unbiased readers -
So "odd" that you find a way to "spin" all of this into a much-imagined negative.
And as you were told dozens of times before .. we see affirmation of John 9:41 and Isaiah 66 by these same members on other threads.. at the exact point that you wanted to declare that "reading the Bible" and "believinig it" would be a "bad thing" if it was not in harmony with your "preferences".
Didn't we have enough of that sort of "teaching" in the dark ages Steaver?
Wouldn't you like to join the side of ?sola scriptura testing" where the Bible is not at war with faith in Christ?
These little bible-avoidance games you seem to enjoy are not helping you make a strong case for your preferences.
We wait for you to at-some-point look at the actual text rather than simply complain that someone else has posted the Bible text or blaming the text on "Ellen White".
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1 Corinthians 14 INSTRUCTS us to seek them... specifically one of them
Reading the Bible AND accepting it -- is a big deal for some Christians -- such as Adventists.
Imagining that "the day after a text was penned it was obsoleted by God" is not an actual Bible principle of study. It is "fluff".
Those who "wish" to imagine such things bear the burden of "missing proof" for their wild conjecture.
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I think you were on your favorite "every topic is a pork topic".
I was on my favorite -- "read the Bible and believe it" topic where I say Isaiah 66 says someone is going to burn in hell for eating mice... you knew that right?
and then you declare that it is evil to read the Bible and accept what it says for some odd reason
“But he who kills an ox is like one who slays a man;
He who sacrifices a lamb is like the one who breaks a dog’s neck;
He who offers a grain offering is like one who offers swine’s blood;
He who burns incense is like the one who blesses an idol.
As they have chosen their own ways,
And their soul delights in their abominations,
4 So I will choose their punishments
And will bring on them what they dread.
Because I called, but no one answered;
I spoke, but they did not listen.
And they did evil in My sight
And chose that in which I did not delight.”
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15 For behold, the Lord will come in fire
And His chariots like the whirlwind,
To render His anger with fury,
And His rebuke with flames of fire.
16 For the Lord will execute judgment by fire
And by His sword on all flesh,
And those slain by the Lord will be many.
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17 “Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the gardens,
Following one in the center,
Who eat swine’s flesh, detestable things and mice,
Will come to an end altogether,” declares the Lord
John 9
41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, ‘We see,’ your sin remains.
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Then you went off on what appears to be "Ellen White wrote parts of the Bible how dare you quote those texts" kind of posts.
For reasons that are innexplicable -
steaver said: ↑
Does Jesus have a double standard? He holds pork eating as a damnable sin for a few (the ones you say have been given light) while letting the masses of His children eat all the pork they want and still be saved?
You answered with...
BobRyan said: ↑
Isaiah 66 says someone is going to burn in hell for eating mice... you knew that right?
So what connection was you making between my pork eating question and your mice eating answer? Please explain. -
Isaiah 66
“But he who kills an ox is like one who slays a man;
He who sacrifices a lamb is like the one who breaks a dog’s neck;
He who offers a grain offering is like one who offers swine’s blood;
He who burns incense is like the one who blesses an idol.
As they have chosen their own ways,
And their soul delights in their abominations,
4 So I will choose their punishments
And will bring on them what they dread.
Because I called, but no one answered;
I spoke, but they did not listen.
And they did evil in My sight
And chose that in which I did not delight.”
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15 For behold, the Lord will come in fire
And His chariots like the whirlwind,
To render His anger with fury,
And His rebuke with flames of fire.
16 For the Lord will execute judgment by fire
And by His sword on all flesh,
And those slain by the Lord will be many.
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17 “Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the gardens,
Following one in the center,
Who eat swine’s flesh, detestable things and mice,
Will come to an end altogether,” declares the Lord
John 9
41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, ‘We see,’ your sin remains.
This was my "actual" posted response.
Isaiah 66 says someone is going to burn in hell for eating mice... you knew that right?
Isaiah 66
“But he who kills an ox is like one who slays a man;
He who sacrifices a lamb is like the one who breaks a dog’s neck;
He who offers a grain offering is like one who offers swine’s blood;
He who burns incense is like the one who blesses an idol.
As they have chosen their own ways,
And their soul delights in their abominations,
4 So I will choose their punishments
And will bring on them what they dread.
Because I called, but no one answered;
I spoke, but they did not listen.
And they did evil in My sight
And chose that in which I did not delight.”
...
15 For behold, the Lord will come in fire
And His chariots like the whirlwind,
To render His anger with fury,
And His rebuke with flames of fire.
16 For the Lord will execute judgment by fire
And by His sword on all flesh,
And those slain by the Lord will be many.
.
17 “Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the gardens,
Following one in the center,
Who eat swine’s flesh, detestable things and mice,
Will come to an end altogether,” declares the Lord
John 9
41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, ‘We see,’ your sin remains.
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Which of course you did include "except for all that Bible quoting, Bible details, Bible reading" I called for in my post... you know 'the usual' -
I find it hard to believe that on this "Walter Martin admits SDA denomination is not a cult" thread - the best you can find to oppose it is to show that you "must not quote" the Isaiah 66 statements about eating mice.!!
That is truly "instructive" for the unbiased objective reader -
EW has failed to demonstart that she saw the risen Jesus, was commissioned by Him as a prophetess, and she fails the test of having her doctrines agree with the scriptures! -
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In fact your made it clear....
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