Reagan spent 30 billion and we got nothing in return. The current system was built later after SDI was, in essence, abandoned in 1993. Reagan's idea was a failure, an expensive failure.
I will take your comment as a compliment seeing as how I have shown you have no idea what you are talking about.
BTW, I collected information for engineers who worked on SDI. It was a failure from the beginning, but the company made a lot of money off Reagan's folly.
Was the Reagan administration corrupt?
Discussion in 'History Forum' started by Crabtownboy, Jul 28, 2015.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
SDI was the final nail in the coffin of the Soviet Union. Mikhail Gorbachev was so frightened of it that he was willing to give up 50% of his strategic nuclear missiles if Reagan would agree not to test SDI outside the laboratory. Reagan held firm, insisting that the U.S. would not give up real world testing. This impasse led to the breakdown of the START talks in Reykjavik, Iceland in 1986.
Gorbachev was so spooked of SDI that he made many concessions in subsequent arms control talks.
The Russians had spies that had learned of the many successes on these many other systems and Gorbachev, given Reagan's unflagging belief that SDI would work, and given the possibilities that the US might be able to make it work, decided to cave in on the arms reduction talks rather than bankrupt the USSR coming up with countermeasures for SDI.
"Reagan's Folly" as you call it greatly accelerated the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union.
You like to read. I suggest "Reagan at Rejkjavik: Forty-Eight Hours that Ended the Cold War" by Ken Adelman.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0062310194/?tag=baptis04-20
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Obama spent $800 + billion starting in 2009 on what he called shovel ready projects. Some years later he, on stage with the GE CEO, snickered: "There were no 'shovel ready projects!'"
Since then he has run up the debt an additional $7,000 billion dollars and will have doubled the national debt he inherited when he leaves office.
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Obama epitomizes what is called "an empty suit". That is what is often portrayed on TV. The face is added to make the "Thing" look real!
Rather than being the super intelligent "Constitutional" scholar he is often portrayed Obama is a mindless person with one capability: He can read a teleprompter! -
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FDR didn't "get us into the war", the bombing of Pearl Harbor was the event that got us into WWII.
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Erasing Ronald Reagan: The Illiberal War On Truth
The prospect of four more years of Barack Obama in the White House has caused several conservative voices (among them, The Wall Street Journal’s Daniel Henninger, Fox News commentator Charles Krauthammer, and noted Ronald Reagan scholar Paul Kengor) to opine that President Obama’s second term portends the passing of the Reagan era, the reversal of his pro-growth policies and the attempted burial of Reagan’s credo, “government is the problem.”
None of this is news. It is a given that Obama and his fellow progressives reject Reagan’s values and philosophy. They will continue to try to expand government.
There is, however, a more sinister dimension to the progressive agenda: Rush Limbaugh asserted that Obama wants to “erase every trace of Reagan from America”—not just to repeal and reverse Reagan’s policies, but to engage in wholesale historical revisionism by obfuscating Reagan’s record and reshaping public opinion about him. It serves the progressives’ interests if they can obscure the fact that Reagan’s policies of lower tax rates, a sound dollar, and reductions in governmental regulatory micromanagement enhanced prosperity and raised standards of living. Those of us who lived through the Reagan years remember the resulting economic growth, but nobody under the age of 30 has first-hand knowledge of those years.
Is it really possible that the left could rewrite the history of the Reagan presidency? Absolutely. They’ve already perverted the record of earlier Republican presidents. Take, as Exhibit A, Warren G. Harding—the president who always appears at the bottom of presidential rankings.
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Quite a few of the things listed in the OP are things to be proud of, like destruction of the labor movement and unemployment down to 7.%% after the Carter years.
The funny thing about Reagan is his administration provided the Justice department with everything they asked for.
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Was the Reagan administration corrupt?
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Japan was building up and planning for an attack on the US for nearly a year. They didn't decide to pull it off because FDR goaded them into it.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Japan attacked the US because it was in their hearts to do so. No other reason.
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To some maybe , but the evidence was finally declassified in 1994.
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