You did when you tried to sharpshoot my agreement with Poncho, and then misrepresented the title to ask a ridiculous question. I sure didn't, I just gave facts that have always been known to me and that others might find interesting.
Washington’s Al Qaeda doesn’t exist and never did
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Dec 12, 2013.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
And quite frankly I am tired of this. You cant even asked simple questions around here without a whole agenda read into it. -
I am sorry if I read an attitude in your posts that you did not mean to come across. The way I took it was demeaning. Again, I apologize if that wasn't how it was meant.
But to clarify, no I don't think America is wholly at fault. But I do think that we handled the situation poorly, and that Al Qaeda is perceived improperly by a majority of Americans. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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I can't answer about what military leaders are thinking about how Al Qaeda is portrayed. I've been out of the Intel game for too long to know what they are thinking now. I can tell you what I said in an earlier post about an Intel officer basically saying that the attacks in our area were "Just a bunch of dudes". I can't say much more than that, other than what I've already posted.
Again, Al Qaeda is real, and they do plan and execute terrorist attacks. But they're not as large as people think. One thing they want is for people to fear them, after all, they're terrorists. So they will take credit for every attack they can. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
What I do not believe is that what ever the media gets right or wrong is a result of some grand conspiracy by the collaborative media to lead the American people into wars unnecessarily. Which is what poncho thinks. -
OBL didnt have to even meet most of the players, all he had to do was pop his face into the game once inna while.
Little local gangster imams would preach the new jihad, recruit local young men to the cause, and in every section of every city in the 10/40 window, little local unaffiliated pockets pop up. -
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If it weren't for the alternative media (what the MSCM and the brainwashed masses call "conspiracy sites") Washington would have gotten us into another Libya "regime change" scenario in Syria. Now the Saudis are mad at Washington because they have to shoulder the burden of funding and arming their own Islamic extremist (Al Qaeda?) proxy forces against Assad.
And the "ouster" is failing.
Another thing Poncho thinks is it's foolish to support some "war on terror" that uses terrorists and murderers as proxy forces to overthrow the governments of other nations. Some of the same people who Sapper was battling against in Iraq are now in Syria being funded and armed by our "allies" Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
Poncho is against terrorism whether the terrorists are funded and armed by Iran or Saudi Arabia or Qatar or Washington or even Israel. -
What a racket! Money money money money ... money!
On a clear night you can smell the fascism. -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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What is wrong with you? If we had any real journalists in the MSCM Obama and most of his administration would be behind bars! Wake Up!
Here's your western journalism . . .
One of the worst Christian massacres—complete with mass graves, tortured-to-death women and children, and destroyed churches—recently took place in Syria, at the hands of the U.S.-supported jihadi “rebels”; and the U.S. government and its “mainstream media” mouthpiece are, as usual, silent (that is, when not actively trying to minimize matters).
The massacre took place in Sadad, an ancient Syriac Orthodox Christian habitation, so old as to be mentioned in the Old Testament. Most of the region’s inhabitants are poor, as Sadad is situated in the remote desert between Homs and Damascus (desert regions, till now, apparently the only places Syria’s Christians could feel secure; 600 Christian families had earlier fled there for sanctuary from the jihad, only to be followed by it).
In late October, the U.S-supported “opposition” invaded and occupied Sadad for over a week, till ousted by the nation’s military. Among other atrocities, 45 Christians—including women and children—were killed, several tortured to death; Sadat’s 14 churches, some ancient, were ransacked and destroyed; the bodies of six people from one family, ranging from ages 16 to 90, were found at the bottom of a well (an increasingly common fate for “subhuman” Christians).
http://balfourpost.com/largest-massacre-of-christians-in-syria-ignored/
Where is the western media? Why aren't "conservative" Faux Snews well groomed talking heads all over this?
Because they don't want Americans to know just how totally screwed up our Bush/Clinton/Obama "foreign policy" of destabilizing nations causing civil wars, ethnic cleansing and spreading Islamic extremism is.
Because their multinational mega corporate owners and sponsors might lose money if Americans knew the truth and shut the scam that is the "war on terror" down.
I love you guys I really do. There's been thousands of threads here about Obama's lies, his administration's lies all the cover ups all the scams, all the scandals, all the off the charts corruption. Thread after thread page after page about how Obama lies consantly and continually without remorse and yet somehow when he tells you he killed the big bad boogeyman right at the exact moment he needed a big boost to his phoney image you swallow it whole without question!!! :laugh:
Here's a couple questions the western media should be asking. Why is Washington and our "closest allies" in the middle east funding and arming Jihadis that murder Christians? Why aren't we gearing up for a huge expensive "humanitarian" rescue effort on the Christian's behalf???
If the MSCM reported Assad had murdered all these Christians you'd be all locked and loaded and ready to turn Damascus into a parking lot with NATO bombs. But seeing as how It's our "foreign funded" Islamic proxy forces doing the murdering it's not even a topic of discussion in the MSCM or on this board.
Why is that?That's why. -
What poncho thinks is largely irrelevant and moonbattish.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
What you failed to address (again) is that your theories about corporations running governments, Obama being dead for 12 years, and any other thing that gets you riled up, might be repeated in the West, but it's not true in the rest of the world. In other words, do you think China's government believes Obama has been dead for 12 years? Do corporations run the government of Saudi Arabia? etc. etc. -
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The United States, or maybe a better term is the Constitution, has many complex enemies internal and external. Internally, our worst enemy is the President and Congress, along with the sheer greed fed to them by mass media, corporations, financial institutions, and the endless web of deceit that they use to feed one another.
Externally is another matter. During the Cold War, things were much simpler. The world was basically divided into three sections, the United States and its allies, the Communist world, and the Third World, which was esstentially irrelevant. Today things are much more complex. Take China for example. At one time, they were a Communist state and bitter enemy. There was no exchange of anything. Fast forward to today, and they are still not to be trusted, but they are a curious mix of market and some form of communism. We trade and travel to and from the country at will. The biggest thing one notices about China is that they finance out national debt. Things have also changed with our other greatest enemy of the Cold War, the Soviet Union. They are now fifteen seperate nations. Most are Muslim and impoverished. Russia, Ukraine, Bellarus, and Georgia have working economies, but not near the economy of China. They are not really our friends, but neither are they our bitter enemies as they once were. Russia is still not to be trusted, and still has many nucs.
Then of course, there is the threat of Muslim extremism, and the varioius organizations like Al Queda that truly hate us and want to destroy our way of life. While not a solid block of power as the Soviet Union and China once were, all it would take is one nuclear bomb.
The point is, we live in a much more complex world than fifty years ago, and the demands on the intelligence services is much greater. What most of the posts are correct about is that most Americans do not have a clue of the level of danger we live in daily, or what it takes to protect us. -
The Saudi government? If I want to hear what the Saudis want me to hear all I gotta do is turn on Faux Snews. Prince Al Waleed's Faux Snews. As a special bonus Faux will tell me what the Israelis and Qataris want me to hear too. Their side of the story and only their side of the story.
BTW, I never claimed Obama has been dead for 12 years. I haven't failed to address anyting. I've addressed corporatism and corporate fascism so many times I can't even begin to count them. Okay? It is not my fault you cannot comprehend the concept of " the hand that gives is greater than the hand that receives". It's a very basic concept but I can't make you comprehend it. You've definately proven that alright. -
Obama is a pathological liar. His administration is made up of sociopathic authoritarians that don't think twice of abusing their power and position to intimidate and coerce people into silence or obedience.
You complain about it all the time until there's something these crooked liars claim you want to believe then all of a sudden you start defending their integrity.
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church mouse guy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
The idea that Obama was correct about Al Qaeda and that he had destroyed this tiny outfit is just Democrat talking points aimed at destroying the reputation and work of Bush.
Yesterday it was published that the Saudi government was officially involved in Nine Eleven. The Democrats just don't want the American people to know how serious the war on terror is.
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