NY wants to subject welfare recipients to drug tests.
If a recipient fails a drug test he will be required to be enrolled in a drug treatment program to retain his welfare payments.
Thoughts?
Welfare and Drug tests
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Salty, Mar 3, 2011.
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Great Idea!
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Sounds like common sense to me.:thumbsup:
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Yup! By all means... They want public money, they can submit to public laws.
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Come on Texas. Get with it! -
I'd say just cut them off and they'll figure out how to work or quit drugs. One or the other... :thumbsup: -
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The moment we made it a "right" to eat, we ended up also making it an obligation to pay, no matter what. I'm all for love -- God knows I've needed it myself -- but not when that love is merely enabling a lifestyle that perpetrates itself ad infinitum. -
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I am all for it. -
Definitely. I've had to submit my share of urine samples, fingerprints, local checks, and federal background checks just to work.
Yet when I was was on welfare I didn't have to do that. That makes NO sense.
I happily submitted to those tests and continue to do so for work. I even had to pay for my own fingerprinting and federal background check this year thanks to school budgets being cut as they were.
I'm beyond happy that they require them and think they should have made them federal YEARS ago. I had no idea that they didn't do federal background check and prints at the schools, yet let them be alone with children all day? WEIRD
So yeah. Do so. I will be the first person to scream bloody murder over the insane power abuse children's social services has but feel they would be justified in taking any child into protective custody to be placed with a family member who cares and is capable or with a foster family unless the other parent is clean, then that parent keeps the kid and the offending one should leave the home until they get treatment and test drug free, then testing should be repeated without warning until the child reaches adulthood or is no longer under the parent's care.
I hate drugs, hate when parents use them and then call themselves parents...and to use the money meant for their kids for drugs? Uh uh. I wouldn't give a rip if they made drug tests mandatory for every kid in a public school either. -
OK if the drug testing requirement is also put on the executives of non-profits, that also being a form of welfare.
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I didn't read the whole thing.:eek: -
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Yes, absolutely! Require a drug test, and if they are using, cut them off!
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Good gravy, do any of your ideas ever make sense?? -
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At least they didn't do it armed services style where you go along with your friends in a bathroom with no stall door and ever watchful eyes on your every move so you don't cheat while you silently pray "please don't let me miss the cup, please don't let me miss the cup!" :BangHead::smilewinkgrin:
It's just part of life though. If someone was responsible for taking care of one of my loved ones I would want them drug tested too. Probably every day. But I'd settle for on occasion! And I think after the first time you gotta kinda give them a reason. I remember getting pulled aside once and found out later that one girl smelled like alcohol but they didn't want to single her out so they grabbed five of us. (and she did test positive) If they hadn't done that she may have been able to hit them with a discrimination suit. I was glad to donate to the cause... -
I was a professional driver for over 10 years, and as a part of the federal CDL program, random testing was a part of life. One could fail by eating a couple of poppy seed muffins for breakfast, so that was out of the diet. At any given moment, in almost any place, I could be expected to follow a uniformed officer to the nearest restroom or to follow in the truck to a particular donation site, where I was expected to give an "offering." Just a fact of life. Didn't stop drivers from using either drugs or alcohol, but it was a deterrent knowing that your job was on the line for lack of compliance.
I'm not against the program for welfare checks, school teachers, ALL public officials and workers, etc. Call it an economic stimulus. Hiring all the people to collect and run the tests will put a lot of folks to work, which should displace all those who loose jobs from failure in their personal life habits.
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