Westboro Baptist Church

[gb93433]

This is one of the good things about Baptist independence from each other. His heresy stays at his church, and is not spread (through authority) to other churches.

Imagine what it would be like if people took Jesus seriously in a good way with the same zeal the kooks have without knowledge.

 

[Ed Edwards]

In a free society, people are free to self-identify as hatemongers and idiots, and the Phelps clan has done just that. One is also free to counterprotest, but the attention is what feeds the Westboro hate machine. Their outrageous behavior is obviously attention-seeking.

The Norman Transcript put the announcement of the Funeral
meeting on page 1; Phelps was not mentioned.
The Norman Transcript put the 'after play' of the Funeral
meeting on page 1; The Phelps were regulated to page 5.

 

[Sopranette]

I'm sorry to get so heated about these people. They sure know how to push people's buttons, and they have pushed mine. Their actions are soo outrageous, it just makes my blood boil. I worry they will grow and spread across the U.S., and gain followers. I just never want to see that happen. But, learning from this thread, and all who have contributed, I will be prepared to rein my emotions in, maybe organize a peaceful protest. The Amish (I think) practice something called a "shunning", when everyone turns their backs simutaniously to the offender. I was hoping the Baptists could organize the same sort of thing, a country wide shunning. Sadly, I see this will probably never happen. And we can accomplish great things in the Lord's name IF we would get together. But I will continue to spot those who use the Lord's name for their evil works, and look them straight in the eye. I hope others will have the courage to do the same when the opportunity arises. I know you have all tried to get me to look the other way, but I can't do that, not yet anyway. That's the last I have to say on this subject.

Love,
and peace, too,

Sopranette

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Doesn't shun mean to ignore? Isn't that what most here advocated.

It is one family - thats all. If we'd quit making such a fuss they would go away.

 

[webdog]

I'm sorry to get so heated about these people. They sure know how to push people's buttons, and they have pushed mine. Their actions are soo outrageous, it just makes my blood boil. I worry they will grow and spread across the U.S., and gain followers. I just never want to see that happen. But, learning from this thread, and all who have contributed, I will be prepared to rein my emotions in, maybe organize a peaceful protest. The Amish (I think) practice something called a "shunning", when everyone turns their backs simutaniously to the offender. I was hoping the Baptists could organize the same sort of thing, a country wide shunning. Sadly, I see this will probably never happen. And we can accomplish great things in the Lord's name IF we would get together. But I will continue to spot those who use the Lord's name for their evil works, and look them straight in the eye. I hope others will have the courage to do the same when the opportunity arises. I know you have all tried to get me to look the other way, but I can't do that, not yet anyway. That's the last I have to say on this subject.

Love,
and peace, too,

Sopranette

I really appreciate your righteous anger and heart, Sporanette. That's something that doesn't come from the flesh. Believe you me, I feel the same way when I hear a shirley Phelp interview, or see one of their protests. With them, you can do a lot more by praying for them and those they come in contact with, than standing toe to toe with them.

I wouldn't worry about them growing. Their "church" has around 50 members, with over 30 of them being family.

 

[tinytim]

The only way they'll grow is to inbreed...
Even then, their gene pool would be so messed up in a couple generations, they will die out.

God is stronger than any protest... He will take care of his church...
Remember the gates of Hell can't prevail.

So that means that Satan's ministers of hate like phelps, are doomed.
When the Sago mine tragedy took place a couple years ago, they protested one of my friend's funeral. He was a God fearing man, deacon at a local Baptist church, and great Christian... but the phelps idiots said he went to hell....

It wouldn't have done any good to argue with them... seeing they are blind.

 

[mcdirector]

The only way they'll grow is to inbreed...
Even then, their gene pool would be so messed up in a couple generations, they will die out.

refraining from comment . . .

 

[tinytim]

So Bitsy, are you shunning me? lol

or is it just my WV upbringing?

Ok, time to shun myself!

 

[amity]

The Amish (I think) practice something called a "shunning", when everyone turns their backs simutaniously to the offender. I was hoping the Baptists could organize the same sort of thing, a country wide shunning. Sadly, I see this will probably never happen.

I think this has happened. They are not in fellowship with any other church.

 

[mcdirector]

So Bitsy, are you shunning me? lol

or is it just my WV upbringing?

Ok, time to shun myself!

Neither -- I just wanted so badly to make some smart comment about the inbreeding thing, but it would not have brought glory to God, so I refrained from my wicked ways

I can't imagine ever shunning you Tim

 

[Ed Edwards]

Actualy it is a Daughter-in-law of the founding Phelps who
is running the demonstrations now. The Son of the founding
Phelps has been kicked out of the church for conduct
un-becoming a Phelps.

Recuitment by marrage is high, there are several
dozen grandchildren who have been getting kicks
demonstrating since they were 5 or 6 years old.

I believe taking a minor (under 18-years old) to
a street corner and having them sing evil songs or
shout evil slogans or dispaly evel words or display
evil pictures - all should be banned. It is NOT freedom of
speech for a minor to make a fool of themselves.
Of course, adults should feel free to make a fool of
themselves anytime/anywhere they want (that is legal).

Caveat: Nothing I say abbrogates the right of people
who built or legally use a building to dictate what is
said in it.

 

[webdog]

The Son of the founding
Phelps has been kicked out of the church for conduct
un-becoming a Phelps.

Oh man, what did he do, show love and actually quote Scripture in context? Or maybe he actually bacame saved and started to teach the real Gospel?

 

[Ed Edwards]

Or maybe he said something like:
(these are MY words addapted from
KJV1611 Edition, John 3:16):

For God so loued ye HOMOSEXUALS,
that he gaue his only begotten Sonne:
that WHICH EVER HOMOSEXUAL beleeueth in him,
should not perish, but haue euerlasting life.

or maybe:

For God so loued ye USofA,
that he gaue his only begotten Sonne:
that WHICH EVER USONIAN beleeueth in him,
should not perish, but haue euerlasting life.

 

[joycebuckner]

In Eccl 3 it states that there is a time to be silent.

Eccl. 3:7, "A time to tear apart and a time to sew together; A time to be silent and a time to speak. "

In John 8 you will notice there was a time when Jesus said nothing.

John 8:3-11, "The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the center of the court, they said to Him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act. "Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?" They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court. Straightening up, Jesus said to her, "Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?" She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."

Jesus did not speak but all that was there could see what he was writing..I wonder what it could have been...the sins of the men there that they thought no one knew about maybe...Leaves somethime to poder on.

 

[Joseph M. Smith]

There is word out there that Westboro/Phelps will demonstrate at the funerals of the Virginia Tech victims. An unimaginable breach of taste and compassion! I am disgusted that the name of "Baptist" can be so terribly misused. Much of the public does not understand that these people in no way represent the views and attitudes of Baptists in general, or that they are not connected with any responsible Baptist association.