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What can wash away my sin?

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Diggin in da Word

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its not biblical to label something that God created as corrupt.
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These fleshly bodies, that which God created are corrupted by sin. What do you mean that which God creates cannot be corrupted?

Satan took the music and corrupted it, making it appealing to the flesh. Music was not created for that purpose.

All things were created for God's praise, not flesh gratification. Satan used it to cause man to feel good about self, to take his eyes off of God.
 
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gekko

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yeess. we are corrupted by sin.

music is not corrupted by sin. can't be.
people use it to display a lifestyle of sin.

the music itself is not sin.
 
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standingfirminChrist

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originally posted by gekko... Post 145:

"but not the music of the world!" you say. thats where you're wrong. and you have not read what i've said - music started with God. satan corrupted it.
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originally posted by gekko... Post 159:
you cannot label ANY kind of music corrupt. its not biblical to label something that God created as corrupt.
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originally posted by gekko... Post 162:
music is not corrupted by sin. can't be.
people use it to display a lifestyle of sin.

the music itself is not sin.
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James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
 
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gekko

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hmm. thanks for pointing that out SFIC.

i wish to correct myself. or rather correct you.

do you not believe that one can change his opinion even just a little bit?
i have since been corrected. and corrected myself in the last previous posts in saying "you cannot label ANY kind of music corrupt. its not biblical to label something that God created as corrupt."

i have since corrected myself of that.
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i will point out again that God created music. and clearly explain that one cannot call what God has created - sin.

you can call what satan has manipulated - sin.
yes satan has manipulated the minds of people to use ungodly lyrics(that's the manipulated part) with God given music.

satan has used God's music to put across an ungodly message.
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i wish not to be double-minded.
 
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gekko

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satan has used God's music to put across an ungodly message - much like satan used God's words to decieve Eve in the garden. no?
 
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Gib

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My, my, 17 pages of hockey-poo that have nothing to do with the OP (minus a few posts).
You've chased the rabbit and beat the horse sensless. :rolleyes: :type:
 
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Bro Tony

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Diggin in da Word said:
Joshua, gekko, Tony, Rbell, eric and others.

I have read the posts that sfiC has posted and nowhere did he say that those lyrics were ungodly. What is your agenda? All I have seen is you twisting his words and attacking him because you do not agree with the message.

Your hatred for him and his wife is very evident, even though you say you don't hate them. Just because you want to hold onto the ungodly music, another person is pharasetical? legalistic?.

I think it is the other way around. Those who advocate nothing wrong with the rock, hip-hop, and rap style songs in the church are too liberal... believing every seducing spirit.

sfiC has given plenty scripture to show we are not to look like the world. That includes our actions, our music, our talk... everything we do should reflect Christ rather than the world.
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Was wondering when you would show up again and make them even the bigger martyr. You have no more authority from Scripture or any place else to back up SFIC statements. I would ask you also to show me one place in this whole thread that I have twisted SFIC's words. Rather why dont you be honest for once and re-read where he twisted what I said about being a priest. Can you do that or are you so much in a certain camp that you can't look at anything honestly. Also show me where I said anything goes. I have never made that statement anywhere. I do like some CCM and I think it is awful judgmental to continually condemn its style as being from the devil. And that has been said. Now how about apologizing for falsely accusing me of things I did not say? BTW--I will not hold my breath.

Bro Tony
 
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Bro Tony

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Joshua Rhodes said:
Bro. Tony - you might go blue. Then we'd call you Bro. Smurfy!
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:laugh: :applause: :smilewinkgrin:

Bro Tony

BTW Josh----Aren't the smurfs of the devil??? LOL
 
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Diggin in da Word

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i will point out again that God created music. and clearly explain that one cannot call what God has created - sin.

you can call what satan has manipulated - sin.
yes satan has manipulated the minds of people to use ungodly lyrics(that's the manipulated part) with God given music.

satan has used God's music to put across an ungodly message.
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So, let me get this straight... It is not the music that is corrupted, but rather the lyrics?

Ok, then according to that line of thinking, when a rock and roller, or death metal artist plays just the music onstage without any lyrics, they are glorifying God? After all, according to you now, the music is not corrupt.

...Man, are you deceived.
 
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rbell

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my last post on this thread...I've said my piece in other threads along this line.

I will address DITW one more time: I would like an apology for your accusing me of hating SFIC. SFIC and I have exchanged PM's on occasion, and I count him as a brother in Christ. We have no hatred for one another--even when we disagree on some issues.

Your false accusations such as this do not lend credibility to your viewpoint. Once again, I would appreciate an apology.

Should you not choose to give one, I do forgive you anyway. But please don't accuse other Christians falsely.
 
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Gib

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Bro Tony said:
Hey Gib,

How many beats per measure are you talking about? Be careful it could be the devils beat from Africa:rolleyes: :eek: :D

Bro Tony
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Do you want that in value or the number of times each drumstick beats something in a measure? And if I miss my snare and whack the rim, does that count?
 
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Bro Tony

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It is a curious thing that it is some how "hateful" to call someone a pharisee, but it is not when calling them a liberal (like digging did a group of us) and accuse other Christians of drinking from the devil's cup (like SFIC did). This martyr complex has got to stop. I don't hate anyone on here, as I believe no one hates me (at least I don't think they do). If we are going to talk about statements and attitudes we will use adjectives. These allow us to express what we are seeing in others as they deal with their brothers and sisters in Christ. It is not a matter of hate. With that standard telling someone he is deceived because he doesn't agree with you is just as hateful as the rest. Let's be consistant here, and lets not fall into the trap of believing that when one opposes your point of view or your approach to your faith, that they hate you. Jesus did not accept the pharisees approach and call them hypocrites, but he still loved them.

Bro Tony
 
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