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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Earth Wind and Fire, Jun 25, 2017.

  1. Earth Wind and Fire

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    This guy if off in that Yeshua did not preach nonviolence. Don't you remember those whips he made? He also contended with the religious many times with harsh words.

    What Yeshua taught was TORAH. He came only speaking His Father's words. Love, forgiveness, judgment, and mercy are all found in the torah. He did not come to bring a new doctrine, but to refresh the original one.

    "Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand" = Quit sinning and obey the Father because His king is here and he is calling the outcasts back to covenant.
     
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    So then how do you reconsile the Jesus of the Sermon on the Mount with the Jesus in the temple?
     
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    I know this will be hard to understand, but the sermon on the mount was a teaching about the exiles of Israel in the beatitude part.

    When you get down lower where he says, "You have heard it said" - this is a reference to oral law and its precepts. He was contrasting the man made teachings or applications by proper interpretation of written word. He came to "fulfill" the law in this passage which is a hebrew idom for "give a proper interpretation of" while "destroying" is giving an improper interpretation. He was teaching torah from the "spirit" (true intentions) and not just the "letter" (one does not negate the other however).
     
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    He makes a good point about non-violent Christians, leading the viewer to conclude that the RCC's violence in the dark ages was not at all in harmony with the Gospel.

    What is more the RCC teaching (supposedly infallible) called the "Doctrine of discovery" grants the right to Catholic explorers to slaughter the native peoples of other countries that refuse to convert. Hopefully the RCC will see its way clear to reject that instead of clinging to the idea - still, that it is infallible.

    What is more the RCC called for the "extermination of heretics" as part of the supposedly infallible council of Lateran IV - in the dark ages. Hopefully the RCC will see its way clear to reject that instead of clinging to the idea - still, that it is infallible.

    What is more the RCC does NOT practice open communion - but many of the other denominations including the SBC and my own denomination - do practice open communion. Hopefully his own denomination will hear his message and change on that point as well.
     
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    ""Doctrine of discovery" grants the right to Catholic explorers to slaughter the native peoples of other countries that refuse to convert. "

    I must have slept through that during my Jedi ninja assassin catholic training.
     
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    You can do it brother.

    Matthew 5

    43“You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.’ 44“But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and theunrighteous. 46“For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47“If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48“Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
     
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    People will try to hide what Jesus teaches us to do with mix of teachings about who he is, to downplay what he actually teaches.
     
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    The NT books were fresh and new revelation, as we are now under a New Covenant!
     
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    Same God also ordered them to destroy all of the wicked in the promised land!
     
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    That doesn't make Jesus' teachings trash.

    See your starting to show your true colors. All these things Jesus teaches here is geared to destroying all of the wicked in the entire world.

    The problem is when you hear "destroy wicked" you automatically think "kill them". Where as if I hear destroying the wicked is to get you to repent for one's wrongs, to love God and love neighbor.

    You are never going to beat evil with evil, only love and kindness can destroy evil, and it does it right at the core and soul problem.
     
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    When jesus returns, He will deal with sinners by fiery retribution, correct?
     
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    God judged and destroy all but a few in the Flood, right?
     
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    The same Jesus will also ride a white horse. He will upset the apple carts a lot of liberals then.
     
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    Funny, I never was taught that when I was a child pre Vatican II, and the Church does not teach such drivel now either.

    You can't practice open communion with people who reject the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist. And were I to attend a Baptist service or your church, I see no reason to imbibe mere grape juice and crackers either.
     
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    If Yeshua is the word (aka law), and you are under the law of "christ", then naturally you are under the torah. Its all one and the same. Yeshua came to magnify the law, not replace it (that would be blasphemous and sinful).
     
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    As well as tin horn Yankee carpet baggers from Queens NY.
     
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