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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Earth Wind and Fire, Jun 25, 2017.

  1. Reynolds

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    Whatever?
     
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    I don't think you need to seek the truth EWF just believe it... From Isaiah 53... Brother Glen:)

    Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

    53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

    53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

    53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

    53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

    53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

    53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

    53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

    53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

    53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

    53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

    53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
     
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    I think Isaiah 53:9 disagrees with you... It says in Isaiah that Jesus was non violent all his life... So what did he show when he drove the moneychangers out of the temple... He showed righteous indignation to injustices... He showed the same thing all through out his life in dealing with Hypocrisy, Greed, Hardheartedness, Superiority of the Leaders over the people, Spiritual Pride and Lukewarm Living... Brother Glen:)
     
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    We are under the moral aspect of the Law, but we are neither saved not kept by obeying it!
     
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    God is above the law, correct?
    The woman caught in adultery deserved to die by the Law, did jesus kill her then?
     
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    I can explain this to you, but would the answer really matter? You deny every other proof that obedience is required. I'm really wondering if you are even a believer...
     
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    So its ok to be violent if its righteous you're saying ;) (i'd agree)

    Here is the definition of violence in that passage you pointed out:

    From H2554; violence; by implication wrong; by metonymy unjust gain: - cruel (-ty), damage, false, injustice, X oppressor, unrighteous, violence (against, done), violent (dealing), wrong.​

    We know Yeshua didn't do any actions of wrongness
     
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    She did deserve to be judged and killed by the law, but the giver of that same law choose Grace towards her, so he was above the Law, correct?
     
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    I have been saved by Grace alone thru faith alone in yeshua, how about you?
     
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    The law wasn't being followed by those who brought her. They were breaking it. I'll let you figure out how.
     
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    Faith = Hear, believe, and obey

    Demons believe and are not saved.
     
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    She still deserved to be judged and killed as by the law!
     
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    Christians are not saved nor kept saved by obedience, for if that was the standard, all of us would still be lost!
     
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    This is not true. If you flip it, then disobedience has no consequences on salvation which is a huge error.
     
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    It will not affect being saved, but it will result is one not maturing in Christ, and staying a baby christian!
     
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    100% wrong. You can not practise sin and be saved, only judged. Many verses on this
     
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    1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the reign of Elohim? Do not be deceived. Neither those who whore, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
    1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor greedy of gain, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers shall inherit the reign of Elohim.
     
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    Our good works reflect that we have been already saved, and will allow us to become more into image of Jesus, but not either the cause, nor the reason kept saved!
     
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    He is referring to those whose very lifestyle is continually bent towards doing those things, and not to those among them who were now saved!
     
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