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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Abd al-masih, Apr 15, 2021.

  1. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    is this a quiz? :D
     
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    what do you make of the account in Genesis 6, the "sons of God", marrying human women, and children born to them?
     
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    how? The Holy Bible is The ONLY Word of God to us humans, and it says nothing about Jesus ever getting married, or having a family. So where can this "found out" come from? Jesus Christ's "MIssion" was not to show people how to get married, start a family, have a job, raise kids, etc. He Came for the purpose of going to the Cross for hell-bound sinners.

    Why is this even an issue with you? what are you trying to prove or disprove.

    As far as the Bible tells us, no heavenly host marry

    "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven" (Matthew 22:30)
     
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    Linguistically likely the Sethites.
     
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    Agreed. The “sons of God” are from the line of Seth.

    They are not a hybrid between men and fallen angels.

    peace to you
     
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    It would greatly affect it, in fact we could not be saved if that were true.
    • If Christ had married a woman, he would have married a woman with sinful flesh.
    • In marriage, the two fleshes become one.
    • Thus Christ's sinless flesh would have become one with a sinful flesh.
    • Then his body would be an unacceptable sacrifice to God.
    • And we could not be saved.
     
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    Hello Abd al-mash,

    Your question presents a key principle for discerning biblical truth. If something is not said (i.e. Jesus was married to a women) do we make an argument from silence. The answer if no, we are to believe what the bible does in fact say. Speculation is the mother of false doctrine.

    Does the claim (Jesus was married) violate any Christian doctrine. Only the doctrine of biblically based belief. For example I could claim God put invisible pink elephants in orbit around Mars. The bible says God put the stuff in the heavens. But the bible does not specifically say God put invisible pink elephants in orbit or that God did not put invisible pink elephants in orbit. So to make the claim, I am "adding" to scripture, and the bible specifically says not to add to scripture.

    You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. (Deuteronomy 4:2)

    18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book. (Revelation 22:18-19)

    As far as Christian doctrine concerning marriage (and divorce) Paul was unmarried and Peter was married, so both circumstances are according to Christian doctrine. Elders are to be the husband of one wife, but that does not preclude unmarried men from being an elder, because to make that claim again would be an argument from silence. Paul endorses unmarried service to Christ.
     
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    Look at what this verse says

    Genesis 6:4
    There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

    The sons of GOD are contrasted with daughters of HUMANS. It must mean more than what you suggest
     
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    Start a thread on it then.
     
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    time, my friend, is the problem, but I will try.
     
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    Mary (ask any Catholic). :)
     
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    She needed to be saved just liked anyone else - as she was also a sinner.
     
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    New King James Version Luke 1:47 And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.
     
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    No, the “sons of God” are contrasted with the “daughters of men”, not “humans”. Moses was concerned the Hebrew men would take wives from the people of Canaan and contrasted the Godly line of Seth with the unGodly line of Cain. They ruled cities and become “mighty men” and “men of renown”.

    Scripture specifically says they were “men”, not hybrids between angels and humans.

    There is no indication in scripture that angels are able to procreate with themselves, much less humans. In fact, Jesus says in heaven we are like the angels, not given or taken in marriage.

    peace to you
     
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    I agree ... but we are in the minority worldwide.
     
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    "Abd al-masih,

    Welcome to Baptistboard, I do not think we have interacted before.
    We believe what we believe based on what the bible declares and teaches to be true. To just speculate and make arguments from silence is not encouraged, as these are written to inform us what to believe.

    Something so important would have been mentioned. The fact the Jesus is the God/ Man is also a factor. Jesus never ceased to be God, when he took upon the "form" of a servant, in order to die on behalf of His people.

    The idea of a Divine being have physical offspring is a cult -like belief from the Mormons.
    The Church is spoken of as the "bride" of Christ to reveal spiritual truth unto us.

    There is no"what if?" in the bible. There is only reality as it unfolds in time.
     
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    The word here is "אָדָם", which is the general word for "humans". People are not just born to "men", but to both, "men and women", so "human beings". If the "sons of God", where indeed from "humans", then it is pointless in expalining that they went into the daughters of humans. I really do not understand what this passage means, and doubt very much if anyone honestly does. The Palestinian Targum here reads:

    "Schamchazai and Uzziel, who fell from heaven, were on the earth in those days; and also, after the sons of the Great had gone in with the daughters of men, they bare to them: and these are they who are called men who are of the world, men of names"

    And the one by Onkelos reads:

    "Giants were in the earth in those days; and also when, after that the sons of the mighty had gone in unto the daughters of men, there were born from them giants who from of old were men of name"
     
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    Scripture calls the offspring “mighty MEN” and “MEN of renown”.

    I’m sure I know what that means. It means they were “MEN”, not a hybrid of angels (who cannot procreate according to scripture).

    No need to speculate.

    peace to you
     
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    Tomorrow, April 23, my invitation will be 55 YO & on the 9th of May my appearance on terra firma will be 75 YO. I was a teenager, but I didn't come to receive Christ as my Personal Savior until I was almost 20 YO. Was I on any of my relatives' prayer list? Could be since most of my grandmothers had already died. In fact my paternal grandmother died before I was even born. My maternal grandmother might have been the one who'd approached God's throne because I can still vaguely remember her funeral where we sung "Rock of Ages, cleft for Me." Whether she was actually saved, I cannot tell since she had dementia. My mother was her oldest daughter, so she allowed my grandmother to stay with the 5 remaining people in her house, of course knowledge of how to treat a dementia patient was practically unknown to most folks back then. Even today there still is much to be learned. My mother was 90 YO (+ 4 mos) when she died from it as well. I still recall going to visit her nursing home back in my hometown. She seemed to be very outgoing for a 90YO woman. She even allowed visitors to walk through her individual room. Some were neighbors or other acquaintances that I recalled. After "visiting hours" were over I commented on her engaging talks with that many visitors. She replied, "What visitors? You were the only in my room!" How does one deal with that? I'd been praying for her & I do know that she has heard the Gospel, but with a mind so empty as hers was, I still don't know of her spiritual condition. My father died some two years after I was, and whether he knew Jesus, I'll probably never know...at least in this life, The younger of my two sisters I'm confident she & my BIL are saved. God took their younger son home several years ago, but I do believe he too was "covered by the Blood of Our Savior." The rest of my family IS religious, but then so was I. It wasn't until someone showed me John 3:16 for the very first time of my almost 20 years. The moral I take from this is: Never give up on praying for somebody's salvation. It may take almost 20 years, but only God knows who He'll receive into His flock. We're told that so we should ,"Be ye My witnesses." Don't give up dear friends, YOU just might win your own family to Jesus! How joyful Noah must have been that, even after 120 or more years God told him to bring not only Mrs Noah, but ALL your sons & their wives (& maybe their young children!) into the Ark of Safety!!" PS...It's forecasting rain in my area by Saturday! H'mmm!
     
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