What does it mean to be truly humble and what does it mean to be prideful, and "holier than thou.?" In my POV being humble means that one is CONVICTED on their beliefs, but humble on secondary matters of doctrine and they realize they may be wrong in secondary issues. For example I do not necessarily agree with Armianism, however I do read books by non Reformed authors such as David Jeremiah, Erwin Lutzer, and others. I also tune into their podcasts, as I desire to be humble and learn the Bible, and in return the HS has taught me things I never could have learned otherwise.
However on the streets I have been accused of being "holier than thou" because I am CONVICTED on John 14:6 and Jesus being the only way and I have used the 10 Commandments to show people their sin. I have told a multitude this over the years and in grace have tried to show people they are guilty of sin and headed to eternal punishment and separation from God. In return I got a accusation of being prideful and "holier than thou."
Or once at a job a few years back I kept my distance from the sinful music and conversations of several employees and some said I thought I was better than everyone and "holier than thou." However I simply could not stand the cuss-words, and ungodliness of their music and conversations.
In my opinion one whom is prideful thinks they know everything and debates and divides over secondary matters of doctrine. They call others whom do not agree not saved, and such. I believe in my ignorance I have stepped into that category at times of which I apologize.
So what about you what do you say?
What is Biblical Humility & what is spiritual arrogance?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by evangelist6589, Dec 7, 2013.
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Primary or secondary has absolutely nothing to do with whether one is prideful. I don't even know how one comes to that conclusion.
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“True humility does not know that it is humble. If it did, it would be proud from the contemplation of so fine a virtue.”
― Martin Luther
“True humility is not thinking less of yourself; it is thinking of yourself less.”
― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
“One cannot be humble and aware of oneself at the same time.”
― Madeleine L'Engle
“The humble person is open to being corrected, whereas the arrogant is clearly closed to it. Proud people are supremely confident in their own opinions and insights. No one can admonish them successfully: not a peer, not a local superior, not even the pope himself. They know - and that is the end of the matter. Filled as they are with their own views, the arrogant lack the capacity to see another view.”
― Thomas Dubay -
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I myself have various worldly artists that I will listen too for they are not inappropriate. For example as I type this post I am listening to a tune by Buddy Holly & The Crickets, & next a tune by the artist Chicago called If you Leave me Now. -
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It's pretty simple.
Spiritual arrogance is when one places the emphasis of his/her ministry on his/her skills, intellect, knowledge, opinions, POV, and everything of the flesh.
No one will ever admit that he/she does that, but it happens ad nausem, all the time among Christians and Christian ministries. The easiest place to find it is on Christian message boards.
The conversation is always about self and how successful/unsuccessful self has been and why or why not.
Spiritual humility is having the mind of Christ and all that this entails in Philippians 2. Also, it's having the internal viewpoint of one's self like Paul did. Paul had a ministry that one can only be in awe of - yet he called himself the "least of the apostles", "the chief of sinners", and all that he could have possibly thrown in other people's faces all the time - his being a Pharisee, his zeal for the law, being blameless, being circumcised, being a Hebrew of Hebrews ...
...that was never Paul's topic of conversation or his focus. He said that all of those things were counted as loss to him ..... in fact, counted as filth. -
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My ears just could not tolerate the constant cussing and use of the Lords name in vain for the tunes would impact me and play over and over in my head. I do not agree with you, for many years ago I used to play over and over again such garbage. Its been 20 years since I played that cassette tape, but guess what? Those lyrics still pop in my mind even today. The garbage I had put in my mind in the early 90's when I was a teenager has impacted me today. -
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Humility isn't a coat to cover the heart full of pride.
It is a state of being. What a person is because that is who they are.
One cannot self impose humility, but can take steps to shun pride and look for ways to place themselves in servitude.
One cannot assume humility is a quality that can be learned as one learns to cook or do math.
Humility is shown - it is demonstrated by doing. For instance when one does for others without that person knowing and also assuming that no one else will notice.
Do not be afraid to loose what you hold, for as a believer it isn't yours to begin with, but a tool loaned to God's service.
Do not be ashamed of the gospel of Christ, but also do not be embarrassed when held to rebuke and shame. The believer is a tool of Christ, and He should enjoy using us as He desires.
Humility will allow for those who heap ridicule and even pile unwarranted blame upon them. Humility has the desire for the betterment of others over the comfort of their own self.
Again, humility isn't an acquired skill, but a life lived.
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