So what? The context for this chapter is the entire epistle of Romans. Chapter divisions and verse divisions were later added to the epistle.
You fail to prove your claim to be true.
Hebrews 3-4 does not have the word Sabbath. You do not cite any verse in the New Testament where Exodus 20:8 is quoted: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it only."
What is the Lord's day according to scripture alone?
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Alofa Atu, Mar 26, 2020.
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Pre-1611 English Bible translations are a Bible in the same sense as a Bible translation in 1611 is a Bible. The KJV sometimes translates incorrectly.
One reason Benjamin George Wilkinson (1872-1968), Dean of Theology at a Seventh-Day Adventist college, objected to the 1881 Revised Version was because it robbed Adventists of several of their favorite KJV proof texts for soul-sleep and Saturday Sabbath-keeping. -
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You did not demonstrate that I supposedly made any false charge against you. You have not defined the term Bible nor the term Scripture, and you have clearly not applied the terms justly. You refused to apply the term the same way to the pre-1611 English Bibles as you use it for the KJV. Pre-1611 English Bibles identified the Lord's day as being Sunday, but you inconsistently try to dismiss them as not being a Bible or translated Scripture. -
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rockytopva Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.- 1 Corinthians 2:2
My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, - Galatians 4:19
You have overly complicated Christianity.. We want to bring people to a point where Christ is formed on the inside. From there....
If ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. - Galatians 5:18
As far as following Ellen White....
suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. - 1 Timothy 2:12 -
rockytopva Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Salvation is as easy as simply believing on the Lord Jesus Christ....
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. - John 3:13-14
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. - 2 Corinthians 11 2-3 -
Colossians 2:14 - “ordinances”
Ephesians 2:15 – “law of commandments contained in ordinances”
Hebrews 9:1 – “ordinances of divine service”
Hebrews 9:10 – “carnal ordinances”
Colossians 2:16 – “in meat, or in drink” [offerings]
Hebrews 9:10 – “meats and drinks” [offerings]
Colossians 2:12 – “also ye are risen with him”
Ephesians 2:6 – “raised us up together”
Colossians 2:16 – “a shadow of things to come”
Ephesians 2:7 – “in the ages to come”
Hebrews 9:11 – “of good things to come”
Hebrews 10:1 – “the law having a shadow of good things to come”, “those sacrifices”, “offered year by year”
Hebrews 9:9 – “was a figure”
Hebrews 9:23 – “the patterns”
Hebrews 9:24 – “the figures”
Hebrews 10:1 – “not the very image of the things”
Colossians 2:2 – “riches”
Colossians 2:3 – “treasures”
Ephesians 2:7 – “riches”
Colossians 2:11 – “of the flesh”
Colossians 2:13 – “flesh”
Ephesians 2:3 – “flesh ... the flesh”
Ephesians 2:11 – “in the flesh”
Ephesians 2:15 – “in his flesh”
Hebrews 9:13 – “flesh”
Hebrews 10:20 – “his flesh”
Colossians 2:14 – “the handwriting of ordinances”
Ephesians 2:15 – “the law of commandments contained in ordinances”
Hebrews 9:19 – “Moses ... to the law ... blood ... book”
Hebrews 9:22 – “by the law ... with blood”
Colossians 2:11 – “putting off the body of the sins”
Hebrews 9:26 – “put away sin”
Hebrews 10:4 – “take away sins”
Hebrews 10:9 – “He taketh away the first”
The immediate reference:
“Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:” – Colossians 2:16
“And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.” – Ezekiel 45:17
[ps. none of the Ten Commandments deal with carnal sacrifices, the context of Ezekiel 45 and its "ordinances" - see vs 14 for example]
The "ordinances" of type:
"ordinances" - Colossians 2:14 (like Passover)
"carnal" [sacrifices] - Hebrews 9:10
"worldly" - Hebrews 9:1
"shadow" - Colossians 2:17
"to come" [pointing to future, as type to antitype]- Colossians 2:16; Ephesians 2:17; Hebrews 9:11, 10:1
Now that is incomparable to the Ten Commandments, eternal the Law of God:
"Ten Commandments", "Law of God" - Exodus 34:28; Deuteronomy 4:13, 10:4
"spiritual" [all of it, obedience by faith and love] - Romans 7:14
"heaven" - Exodus 20:22
"light" - Proverbs 6:23; Isaiah 8:20, 51:4; Psalms 119:105
"Remember" [memorial, past] - Exodus 20:8 -
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rockytopva Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. - Galatians 2:16 -
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Isa_45:25 In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.
Not about 'earning' anything. I tell you untold times, and you refuse to hear it. -
2 Corinthians 4:3 - But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which BELIEVE NOT, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. -
That the "Lord's day" in Revelation 1:10 is the sabbath day (Saturday) is INCONCLUSIVE. SDA's reach this conclusion based on their biased opinions and need to promote their perverted sabbath gospel which culminates in "salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works."
Jesus rose (after the sabbath) on the first day of the week - "Sunday." (Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:2,9; John 20:1) In all the 5 books that John wrote, he always called the sabbath "the sabbath." If Revelation 1:10 was the sabbath, then John would certainly have said, "I was in the Spirit on the sabbath," but of course, that is not what John said. SDA's turn the sabbath into an idol.
Numerous writings point to early Christians calling the first day of the week, the "Lord's day." It truly amazes and saddens me to see just how brain washed SDA's truly are and just how far they will go to accommodate their perverted gospel. :( -
See, Baptists (current) aren't Sola Scriptura. They're as traditionalist as Rome is, and even carry her doctrines, as foretold. 'She' (RC) was right about them. -
Revelation, was written before the Gospel of John and his epistles (according to most), and I have already shown why John uses the phrase, as he is citing Isaiah in the midst of a Chiasm, and connected with the "word of God" (Law) and "testimony of Jesus" (Spirit (as "in the Spirit on") of Prophecy).
What is the Lord's day according to scripture alone?
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