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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Yeshua1, Dec 11, 2020.

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  1. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    still not getting it?
     
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    Repent of what? Paul told jailer to believe in the Lord Jesus and be saved!
     
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    what did Jesus say in Luke 24:47? and Peter in Acts 2:37-38? lets keep to these two for the present. I would like to know what you think that these passages mean.
     
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    The turn is from sin to Christ. Repent means to turn
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    No sorrow and guilt?
     
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    Which would mean realizing that I cannot save myself by what I do!
     
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    The Holy Spirit is the motivatior of Conviction. Conviction is the motivator of repentance. Sure regret and shame bring guilt and sorrow This is what conviction is about. Making us all realize we have sinned against God turning us towards God to be forgiven if we are willing.
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    Only Calvinist claim this as the doctrine of others. That is; saving one's self. I've never made that claim. Yet I'm accused of it by you quite often. no one is saved by force.
    2Co_8:12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.
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    To repent in order to be forgiven sounds like a "work" we must do in order to be saved. Scripture is very clear on salvation by faith alone. Please explain, as I must be missing something.
     
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    Show from Scripture where it says that salvation is by faith alone
     
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    Those two passages have already been addressed with you. Do you have more than a couple sentences, out of context, to assist your argument?
     
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    Lets hear your interpretation
     
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    We cannot do that ourselves, as it takes the working of the Holy Spirit Himself!
     
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    Well, none will be justified by the Law, so what is left?
     
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    You didn't say that in #104
     
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    How many times do I have to show the same Scripture verses? Jesus says REPENT and BELIEVE can you still not see this. Are you disagreeing with the Reformed confessions
     
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    None can decide apart from the working of the Holy Spirit!
     
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    What did Paul tell the Jailer to do?
    Or Jesus to the Thief?
     
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    The thief acknowledged that they were sinners and deserving their deaths. And said that Jesus was innocent
     
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    Peter in Acts 2 says repent but no mention of faith. Jesus said the same in Luke 24. But in Mark 1.15 Jesus uses both repent and believe
     
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