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Featured What Will/Should Become of the #NeverTrumpers

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Benjamin, Dec 22, 2016.

  1. Salty

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    Many people who support Trump do not blindly support Trump.
    I do not agree with The Presidential-Elect with everything.

    INL - posted several several things that he disagrees with Trump.
    I agree with just about everything on that list.


     
  2. Benjamin

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    Guess they are used to their **tactics working. But I've had this type of "operation" (which they consider "debate") to attempt to shut down a thread which they can't handle the argument against them any other way pegged for so long that I've named and defined it:

    ** “Subtrolling Crash Dummies” - an uncontrolled pack which assist in the disruption, or crash into a thread for the purposes of changing the focus onto personal assaults and thereby overwhelm any attempts to bring a thread back on topic.

    ;)
     
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    What purpose does it serve other to serve as an irritabt
     
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    Use, can you redo this sentence?

    Thanks
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    It's amazing to me that anyone, especially professing Christians, can call Trump's values Christian values or even conservative values. This man is the most unChristian candidate I've seen in my life. BTW, the first vote I cast for president was for Nixon in '68 because he lied just as Trump has in many areas about his objective to end the Viet Nam war. I realized that in '72 and campaigned against him. Trump is a dangerous narcissistic who believes he knows more about everything than anybody else. He's been married 3 times and had an illegitimate child by his second wife before he divorced his first wife. His current wife worked in the U.S. illegally because she didn't have the right visa to do so and yet Trump hypocritically wants to deport illegal aliens. She also appeared nude on the cover of GQ magazine. [link deleted]
    Think that's pornographer? No, that's our new First "Lady." Trump mouthed conservative platitudes but his real beliefs were expressed in this video from 1999: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914

    On the campaign trail Trump tried to put money in the communion plate demonstrating that he hasn't exactly been a church goer for a long time. He has re-ignited racial hatred in our country that I didn't believe existed any more. Unfortunately, I was wrong. A great business man? He has declared bankruptcy 6 times. I don't consider that to be the mark of an astute business man at all. He has demonstrated a real kinship with V. Putin, the leader of a communist state who I consider to be our enemy. Both Democrats and Republicans have called for a thorough investigation of the impact Russia's hacking influenced the result of the election. He refused to provide his tax returns making him the first candidate in modern history to do so. Even Nixon released his tax returns while under audit which is the excuse Trump gives. His medical report was very marginal and his so-called doctor looks like a relic from Woodstock.

    He has already caused an international incident by recognizing Taiwan. It seems to me that his objective is for Russia and the U.S. to seize power together by attacking China. This might very well involve a nuclear exchange. My personal hope lies only in my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ but I will do everything I can to resist America's takeover by an avowed FASCIST. I think America was conned in the same way Germany was conned by Adolph Hitler. This song describes where we are at this point.
     
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    'What purpose does it serve other than to serve as an irritant.'
     
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    We should recognize Taiwan.
     
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    Thanks again :)
    HankD
     
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    I hope you have to eat your words FTW. Time will tell.

    HankD
     
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    This is simply a true statement of Trump's character. I'll never have to "east my words." If you can refute any of the characteristics I pointed out please do. I hope for our country's sake he doesn't take America down.
     
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    I would agree with you but it has to be done in the right way, through international diplomacy.
     
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    No problem. Merry Christmas Hank.
     
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    I knew his past, but I certainly cannot call anyone down concerning personal sin.

    All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

    After prayer and my concern for my nation I chose Trump.

    IMO Hillary would have led us down a marxist path. To not vote would have been a Hillary vote.
    Not only marxism but the shedding of helpless and innocent blood before they even see the light of day.

    Trump/Pence have promised to repeal Roe vs Wade and appoint pro-life justices to the SCOTUS.
    For this reason I and many other Christians chose Trump, in my case admittedly a gamble that he keeps his word.

    psalm 106
    37 Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,
    38 And shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood.

    HankD
     
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    Ditto and a Happy New Year :)

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    He answered a phone call from the leader of an "entity"?? (which does not exist) to whom this present administration supplied almost 2 billion dollars of instruments of war which do exist.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/16/politics/u-s-taiwan-arms-sales/

    HankD
     
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    Are you an expert on international diplomacy? I think not and neither am I but take a look at China's and the world's response.
     
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    True, then why did you bring accusation by innuendo admittedly not being an expert in international diplomacy?
    If you are not such an expert how then can you say "it has to be done in the right way, through international diplomacy".

    Plus neither of us has any idea what Trump said to Taiwan's president Tsai Ing-wen to further prove your point about both of us.

    You have your propaganda you consume and I have mine. Some believe the phone call was proper:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...0169a2-bb00-11e6-ac85-094a21c44abc_story.html

    Look FTW, my objective is not to argue for the sake of one-upsmanship.
    FWIW I have said it before on the BB and to others in my sphere of influence.
    A new world war is brewing and seems very much inevitable.

    Trump IMO may very well have to lead us into that inevitable war.
    But he has a spine and is fearless (IMO) and we just might win.
    The alternative candidate(s) in my opinion would surrender and the bloodshed would be even greater as those who hate us hate us with the venom of that great serpent. I believe a new holocaust is coming for western citizens.

    My prayer is that a thermo-nuclear war is averted.
    However in spite of the prayers of this nation WWII went out of control and ended in atomic warfare.

    We have the right to defend ourselves and our nation.
    As a veteran, even as old as I am, I will continue to keep my oath to do so as best I can.

    I want Trump at the helm as commander in chief.
    He is reminiscent of Harry (Give them heck) Truman and yes (being OLD) I remember him well.

    HankD
     
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