But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called [me] by his grace, To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus. Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days. But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
What would the following verse mean if
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by percho, Jun 18, 2012.
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That's right Percho, Paul came to his conviction over time, more than a day, and spent years in study and meditation preparing to preach among the heathen. Let's stick with what scripture actually says, and not just ignore scripture and assert what men have invented. Acts chapter 9 describes Paul still in prayer three days after Jesus appeared to him on the road.
One way to look at it was when Saul "arose" that equates with him "calling on the name of the Lord." And being "baptized" could refer to being sealed with the Holy Spirit because God accepted his faith. So if this describes Paul's conversion, it occurred 3 days after being knocked off his horse and Paul's choice to call on the name of the Lord. Just saying... -
Yeshua1 claims and assertions oppose scripture. Revelation does "open us up" to whatever was revealed, but the claim of supernatural enablement is simply added to the text without a shred of support. Paul was a devout Jew, a believer in God and in the promised Messiah. So he was already "open" to God's promised Messiah. Therefore he was "of My sheep."
Three of the four soils (Matthew 13) received the gospel, therefore Total Spiritual Inability is demonstrated false. -
he approved and sought out saints to be killed off...
NOT one of the sheep!
God HAD to spiritually intervene and grant him a new heart and mind concerning who jesus was!
And paul got/received DIRECT REVELATION from the risen christ concerning the Gospel, as related to law and grace of God!
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I meant that Mark 16:16 is given in parallel with the other accounts of the "Great Commission" (teach all nations, baptizing them). We understand this to be water baptism (disciples baptize with water). In this parallel account, it would seem that Jesus makes the statement in Mark 16:16 just after telling the disciples to "preach the gospel to every creature [baptizing them]." Then, telling them "He that believes and is baptized will be saved" would still be referring to the water baptism that He just told them to do, hence my explanation above.
- The Greek word for for here--eis--does not always mean "to obtain." It can generally mean "pertaining to" or even "because of" (Mat 12:41; Luke 11:32; 5:14). Peter could be saying to be baptized "pertaining to" or "because of" the forgiveness of sins, not so that they would obtain it.
- Both repent and remission of [your] sins are in second person plural. be baptized is in third person singular. Although it is not a hard rule in Greek that the two cannot be linked, it can indicate that Peter intended repent to go with remission of [your] sins, and that "[let each of you] be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ" is a parenthetical construction as one could be deduced from 1 Peter 3:21.
- Although the baptism of John the Baptist is not the same as "Christian baptism," a parallel description could shed light on what Peter meant in Acts 2:38.
Mar 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
John preached the baptism OF repentance for the remission of sins. It is the repentance that is for the remission of sins, and the baptism is an identification with that repentance. - A non-dispensational understanding of Daniel's 70-weeks can influence one's understanding of Peter's message to the Jews at Pentecost. If Daniel's 70th week began at Christ's baptism where He began to "confirm the covenant with [the] many for one week," He was cut off "in the midst of the week" (causing "the sacrifices and oblations to cease"), and there remained another 3 1/2 years for the disciples to finish the "covenant" with Israel before God sent Peter to the Gentile Cornelius, Peter's language could reflect Israel-specific language that would target the priestly nation and would be understood more like John's baptism.
Arising, be baptized AND wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
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Having arisen, be baptized AND wash away your sins, having called on the name of the Lord.
Command #1: Be baptized by getting up.
Command #2: Wash away your sins by calling on the name of the Lord.
It is the calling on the name of the Lord that results in washing away sins, not the baptism.
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