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Earth Wind and Fire · Jun 24, 2015

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Nathan Bedford Forrest (July 13, 1821 - October 29, 1877) was a lieutenant general in the Confederate Army during the American Civil War. He is remembered as a self-educated, brutal, and innovative cavalry leader during the war and as a leading Southern advocate in the postwar years. He was a pledged delegate from Tennessee to the New York Democratic national convention of 4 July 1868. He served as the first Grand Wizard (head of movement) of the Ku Klux Klan, but later distanced himself from the organization. Forrest was accused of war crimes at the Battle of Fort Pillow for allowing forces under his command to massacre hundreds of black Union Army and white Southern Unionist prisoners. From Wikipedia but I have more if you like. Now who is Bubba?
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You forgot to mention that he was asked to speak at one of the 1st NAAPC meetings (and did). And the Grand Wizard of the KKK thing is NOT proven. Forrest in fact distanced himself from that organization as you pointed out. In any event, he was a very smart tactician & courageous ..... had 30 horses shot out from under him ....and he once said that he was up one horse ahead having killed 31 Yankees in combat.

poncho · Jun 24, 2015

JohnDeereFan said: ↑

Gee. Black people and vandalism. I never would have seen that one coming.

Ever been in a black neighborhood? Graffiti and vandalism EVERYWHERE.
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From the article . . .

Many have equated the activity to the backwards mentality of ISIS extremists, who have spent the last year tearing down historical statues and monuments because they offend their radical belief system.
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The American Dream · Jun 24, 2015

kyredneck said: ↑

"...In Kentucky, the Republican candidate for governor, Matt Bevin, and U.S. Sen. Mitch McConnell said Tuesday that a statue of Confederate President Jefferson Davis should be removed from the Capitol rotunda, where it sits just feet from a statue of Abraham Lincoln, whose election spurred the South's secession. Both men were born in Kentucky, a border state during the Civil War...."
After Charleston, South revisits its many Confederate images

Breaks my heart, I personally campaigned for Bevin in 94 for congress.

This is just plumb goofy.

....and pure rotten politics.
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I am surprised to hear that about Matt Bevin. I just voted for him in the primary for governor. Mitch McConnell does not surprise me one bit. He might as well be a Democrat.

JohnDeereFan · Jun 24, 2015

kyredneck said: ↑

I suppose all images/ memorials to these should go also:

"....Following is the number of slaves each of the 12 slaveholding presidents owned. (CAPS indicate the president owned slaves while serving as the chief executive):[1]

- GEORGE WASHINGTON (between 250-350 slaves)
- THOMAS JEFFERSON (about 200)
- JAMES MADISON (more than 100)
- JAMES MONROE (about 75)
- ANDREW JACKSON (fewer than 200)
- Martin Van Buren (one)
- William Henry Harrison (eleven)
- JOHN TYLER (about 70)
- JAMES POLK (about 25)
- ZACHARY TAYLOR (fewer than 150)
- Andrew Johnson (probably eight)
- Ulysses S. Grant (probably five)

It’s a commonplace that Abraham Lincoln never trafficked in slaves, much less owned them – indeed, he “freed the slaves.” But here’s the shocker: Although the slave trade had been abolished in the District of Columbia in 1850, slaves inhabited the capital for another 15 years – till the end of the Civil War. Dwell on that thought: Lincoln fought the Civil War in a slave city – the Great Emancipator inhabited a White House staffed by slaves...."

How many of our presidents owned slaves?
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You've convinced me. I've decided we're no longer going to sing Amazing Grace. After all, its author was a notorious slave trader.

carpro · Jun 24, 2015

The American Dream said: ↑

Already posted this in another thread, but I grew up in Mississippi in the 50s and 60s and observed and watched the evil of segregation daily.
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I grew up in the same time period and watched as peaceful desegregation took place over the objections of whites and blacks alike.

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