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What's REALLY Wrong with Obamacare???

What is REALLY Wrong With Obamacare?!?

  • It is simply the technological glitches that have hurt the program!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It is both the technological as well as the program that is failing!

    Votes: 1 50.0%
  • Once the cyber problems are fixed, Obamacare will deliver as promised....

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The problems are over exaggerated by media and the GOP...

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The program will never work....

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It was doomed from the beginning...this is just the beginning of its end!

    Votes: 1 50.0%
  • Do the math...this program will bankrupt the country.

    Votes: 1 50.0%
  • Obama was too detached from the development of software...

    Votes: 1 50.0%
  • Obama has no one to blame but himself...

    Votes: 1 50.0%
  • No option above, see my response to this in comments!

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    2

righteousdude2

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With all the finger pointing, and negative floating, or maybe I should be saying, flying around, DC regarding the roll out of Obamacare, I wondered out loud about what exactly is WRONG with Obamacare?

Is it just the technological glitch, or is the entire program flawed from being so cumbersome that no one in office seems to have really read the text of the manuscript that makes up the new entitlement program?

Is the technological problem just the root, or tip of the iceberg so to speak, when it comes to the program?

Well....you be the judge! What say you???
 
We make the mistake of confusing the website with the healthcare act. They aren't the same thing. The website is just a method to get people to enroll in the program. But as this Forbes article from last week detailed, there is an underlying reason for the website failures:


A growing consensus of IT experts, outside and inside the government, have figured out a principal reason why the website for Obamacare’s federally-sponsored insurance exchange is crashing. Healthcare.gov forces you to create an account and enter detailed personal information before you can start shopping. This, in turn, creates a massive traffic bottleneck, as the government verifies your information and decides whether or not you’re eligible for subsidies. HHS bureaucrats knew this would make the website run more slowly. But they were more afraid that letting people see the underlying cost of Obamacare’s insurance plans would scare people away.
The problems with the healthcare act itself are far greater than the issues with the website, and those are the problems we should be focusing on. We're concentrating on the website issues, and like it or not, those will be fixed, and then we have to scramble around looking for something else to complain about, when the real problem is right there in front of us. I posted a warning issued by conservative and former world chess champion Garry Kasparov about the wrong direction of this discussion a couple days ago:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=89644&posted=1#post2044056

The tactic the opponents of the ACA should be pursuing was outlined by the Urban Institute's study of a theoretical delay in the individual mandate:


There is significant risk that low exchange enrollment in the first year due to the lack of a mandate could begin an adverse selection cycle which would make it difficult to establish viable risk pools in the exchange in future years. While the Urban Institute estimated that premiums without the mandate could be up to 24 percent higher than with the mandate, that analysis assumed fully effective risk adjustment across the exchange and nonexchange markets. Less effective risk adjustment could lead to even higher premiums in the exchange without the mandate and could dissuade insurers from participating in the new markets; this could then further dissuade healthier individuals with current nongroup coverage from entering the exchanges, exacerbating the effect in the following years.
This is much less objectionable -- and almost surreptitious -- method of bringing down the ACA. No one pays attention to facts and figures in Washington, they only go on gut emotion. They don't realize that delaying the individual mandate would probably all but destroy the ACA, resulting in higher premiums, fewer ACA clients, and most likely -- in an election year -- the need to debate increasing taxes to fund this disastrous program. (Wow, then why am I trumpeting this so all the liberal nutballs will know our tactics?)

I say, "Let's do it!" Get rid of this ignorant socialistic power grab and put healthcare back in the free enterprise system where it belongs.
 
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HankD

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Site Supporter
With all the finger pointing, and negative floating, or maybe I should be saying, flying around, DC regarding the roll out of Obamacare, I wondered out loud about what exactly is WRONG with Obamacare?

Is it just the technological glitch, or is the entire program flawed from being so cumbersome that no one in office seems to have really read the text of the manuscript that makes up the new entitlement program?

Is the technological problem just the root, or tip of the iceberg so to speak, when it comes to the program?

Well....you be the judge! What say you???

The root of the problem is that it is a violation of the consent of the governed. Yes, the majority voted for Obama and knew he would introduce government control of health care.

The violation came to light when the famous statement - we have to pass the bill to see what's in it - was made.

IOW, publically (and for the most part politically) no one knew what was in the bill - e.g. laws concerning abortion or euthanasia, "death panels", or even so many other things not health related.

Even the SCOTUS said it is a tax.

OK don't join up and you have committed a felony - tax evasion. After all the IRS runs the enforcement of it and we know what they are like. Little or no due process and all you own is seized and/or you end up behind bars.

WE WERE SOLD A BILL OF GOODS.

Both parties are equally to blame IMO.

It needs to be rescinded, studied line for line, revised and then voted upon (the revisions and then the overall bill).

HankD
 
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