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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Barry Johnson, Oct 14, 2020.

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  1. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    not sure that the latter do? any evidence for this?
     
  2. Barry Johnson

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    Is that really ' concerned if they are one of the ' elect ' or not ?
     
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    Arminans believe in conditional election.
     
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    AustinC Well-Known Member

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    That's funny, savedbymerit...
     
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    take up clowning :Laugh:Laugh:Laugh
     
  6. Barry Johnson

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    Yes our faith .
     
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    The Total Depravity of Man by A. W. Pink

    Total Depravity "is therefore a testing doctrine, especially of the preacher's soundness in the faith.

    "A man's orthodoxy on this subject determines his viewpoint of many other doctrines of great importance.

    "If his belief here is a scriptural one, then he will clearly perceive how impossible it is for men to improve themselves—that Christ is their only hope.

    "He will know that unless the sinner is born again there can be no entrance for him into the kingdom of God.

    "Nor will he entertain the idea of the fallen creature's free will to attain goodness. He will be preserved from many errors.

    "Andrew Fuller stated,

    "I never knew a person verge toward the Arminian, the Arian, the Socinian, the Antinomian schemes, without first entertaining diminutive notions of human depravity or blameworthiness."

    "Said the well-equipped theological instructor, J. M. Stifler,

    "It cannot be said too often that a false theology finds its source in inadequate views of depravity."
     
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    5¶But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
    Yes our faith. Rom 4.5
     
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    So...a Calvinist humbly hopes in God alone to save and not in a merited prayer. Got it.
     
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    Why are you quoting another man in a bible discussion?
     
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    Hopes ?
     
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    Where does God say there is a church age?
     
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    once the sinner is saved and joins the Body of Jesus Christ. The Greek word for Church, is "ἐκκλησία", that is, "the called out"
     
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    Do you see the body of christ before the body of christ ? in the scriptures?
     
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    Not sure of your point ?
     
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    Austin...:Cautious

    ;)
     
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    How do you figure that?
     
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    Where does God say there is a church age?
     
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    It's a noble profession.
     
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    1 Peter 1:13-21 Therefore, preparing your minds for action, and being sober-minded, set your hope fully on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance, but as he who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, since it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.” And if you call on him as Father who judges impartially according to each one’s deeds, conduct yourselves with fear throughout the time of your exile, knowing that you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your forefathers, not with perishable things such as silver or gold, but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot. He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you who through him are believers in God, who raised him from the dead and gave him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.
     
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