Can a Christian be too pro-Israel? What support should we give Palestinian Christians?
When Theology Is So Pro-Israel That It Becomes Anti-Christian
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Mar 19, 2015.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Wow, I have never seen a more biased article lacking many many facts.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Please point them out. The article rings quite true as to what I was told by Palestinian Christians who were at the seminary in Prague.
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And like race relations in the United States, the folks on either side are not willing to listen to the other side. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
In recent history the area called Palestine includes the territories of present day Israel and Jordan (see map above. For earlier history of the term see article). From 1517 to 1917 most of this area remained under the rule of the Ottoman Empire.
Ottoman Empire was dissolved at the end of World War I. Its successor, modern republic of Turkey, transferred Palestine to British Empire control under the Lausanne agreement that followed WW I.
In 1917 Great Britain issued the Balfour Declaration for "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people". In 1922 Britain allocated nearly 80% of Palestine to Transjordan. Thus, Jordan covers the majority of the land of Palestine under British Mandate. Jordan also includes the majority of the Arabs who lived there. In other words, Jordan is the Arab portion of Palestine.
The residents of Palestine are called "Palestinians". Since Palestine includes both modern day Israel and Jordan both Arab and Jewish residents of this area were referred to as "Palestinians".
It was only after the Jews re-inhabited their historic homeland of Judea and Samaria, that the myth of an Arab Palestinian nation was created and marketed worldwide. Jews come from Judea, not Palestinians. There is no language known as Palestinian, or any Palestinian culture distinct from that of all the Arabs in the area. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. "Palestinians" are Arabs indistinguishable from Arabs throughout the Middle East. The great majority of Arabs in greater Palestine and Israel share the same culture, language and religion.
Much of the Arab population in this area actually migrated into Israel and Judea and Samaria from the surrounding Arab countries in the past 100 years. The rebirth of Israel was accompanied by economic prosperity for the region. Arabs migrated to this area to find employment and enjoy the higher standard of living. In documents not more than hundred years, the area is described as a scarcely populated region. Jews by far were the majority in Jerusalem over the small Arab minority. Until the Oslo agreement the major source of income for Arab residents was employment in the Israeli sector. To this day, many Arabs try to migrate into Israel with various deceptions to become a citizen of Israel.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Squire Robertsson AdministratorAdministrator
The seeming indifference to Palestinian "Christians" probably arises from the fact that few are of the Evangelical persuasion. Most are either Roman Catholic or one of the various Eastern Orthodox groupings. The US pro-Israel folks are based in Evangelical/Fundamental Christianity.
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According to the Rev punishing the whole population, destroying their infrastructure and cutting off aid is justified because a few fired rockets into Israel.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Here is an example, a small one, but still a sample.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
The Christians have the same agenda as the Muslims. They are as anti Israel as anyone. The so called actions taken by Israel against the Christians is because they all live among the very terrorists that continue to kill Israelis. If they want to be free from the consequences they need to move and stop supporting terrorists. Just because they are Christians does not free them from the responsibility of their actions and who they support. Fact is that Christians in the area are being used to gain sympathy. They are a tool of propaganda. They are being used as a tool to gain sympathy from the Christian community. They need to move or get rid of the terrorists. Can't have it both way.
Oh and the post I made is very much relevant. They history shows the claims by the so called Palestinians to the land is false. -
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
It is shameful for a Christian, and one who claims to be a minster of Jesus Christ to justify the mistreatment and killing of other Christians. Shame, shame, shame! You really have no idea what you are talking about ... just backed into another indefensible corner and making wild, untrue, unsubstantiated claims. Shame!!! -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Uh no one has justified any mistreatment. More dishonesty from you. Apparently you have gotten your said angry again.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Your entry justified their being killed. You can try to weasel out of it, but it is there for all to see.
Why wouldn't any Christian not be disturbed and angry when a person who says they are a Christian minister tries to justify the harming and killing of other Christians.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
You support the killing of terrorists and lump, incorrectly, Palestinian Christians with the terrorists ... thus you are supporting the killing of Christians.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
My mistake was taking your bait once again. We all know you are not interested in discussions. -
Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
How many Palestinian Christians have you met?
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Your mistake was taking a stance from extreme ignorance, of making gross over-generalized statement, of showing no love for others, much less other Christians, spouting indefensible nonsense and ending up supporting the killing of Christians. Shame on you!
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Squire Robertsson AdministratorAdministrator
The problems for the Evangelical segment of Palestinian Christians I think arisess from their being lumped in with the non-Evangelicals. I would tend to think the non-Evangelicals are as anti-Semitic as the western based pre-John Paul II RCC was.
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