Which do you trust, God or science?

I've asked Ben twice about calling God 'She' and he hasn't answered.

 

Hopefully just a typo... if not, origins is not the greatest of his/her problems.

 

Page 8, clear as day. Sounds like a remark a troll would make.

 

I am trying to lovingly give them the benefit of the doubt per I Cor 13.

 

How sad when professing Christians embrace the atheistic concept of evolution!

 

I am actually more concerned about someone who would call God a "she".

 

And the Greeks knew for a FACT that a giant Turtle held up the Earth.

 

Page 8, clear as day. Sounds like a remark a troll would make. </font>[/QUOTE]Since I am one of those ignorant creationists, I can get away with it; but it really amazes me that someone who taunts people about his great upper-level education, like BenFranklin does, that his grammar would be so bad that he would use double-negatives. Didn't they teach that in English 101 in HIGH-SCHOOL? Oh, 'scuse me, the education was in "ROCKS"; not English communications. . . :rolleyes:

 

Back to seriousness, BenFranklin, unless I missed the post, please tell me again: what you believe about the diety of Jesus Christ, the virgin birth, the miracles of Jesus and the disciples? I don't think I have seen you post this yet.

I thought it WAS a little odd that your sentence: "That does not necessarily mean that I don't believe that God is not omnipotent." uses the words "does not necessarily mean".

If I were to be writing about God, I certainly would be saying that "I certainly DO believe that God is omnipotent".

I know it is against board rules not to judge another person's beliefs, so in order for me to KNOW what you believe, would you please tell us?

I have seen you throw out a lot of so called scientific "evidence" that you claim points towards the theory of evolution, but see VERY quotations from the Word-of-God coming from you.

I want to know specifically what you believe about the REST of the Bible, before we continue posting.

Would you kindly provide YOUR beliefs to us?

 

Scott, Are you sure God is of the male sex? Does the Bible say without a doubt that God is male? Maybe it does, but I don't remember any such statement and I know the Bible reasonably well. Seems to me that God, not being human, would not necessarily have a sexual component. What do you think? I put "she" simply to shake up your fossilized way of thinking.

By the way I believe that God is omnipotent. I do not believe that God chooses to intervene in world events. I see no evidence of that. Also, there have been studies of prayer and if I remember the results correctly, the studies show that prayer has no effect on healing. If supernatural events happen now, they don't leave tracks.

[ February 01, 2005, 06:24 PM: Message edited by: Benfranklin403 ]

 

Phillip,

I prefer to talk about science. I will not submit to a grilling on my religious beliefs. You are out of line. The days of the inquisition are over.

 

Jesus Himself told us to call God Father, a male. And He is repeatedly called he, Him, male in the Bible. And since God is the author of that same Bible, He must be telling us He is to be refered to as He, Him, a male.
Let the Bible speak for itself. No, actually, let God speak for Himself, and He already did.
A far as I'm concerned He doesn't lie, that means case closed, God is a He, becasue He said so. So unless you can prove God is a liar.........


Of course you don't want to talk about faith with beliefs like that.
I'd be ashamed too if it were me calling God 'she'.

 

A little old lady was in the city library listening to a formal talk by an astronomer. He told about how the universe was vast, that it is many light years across and how the earth was a spinning ball supported by nothing. She got up and said, "Well, I don't agree with you, it is not that way at all!"

The astronomer was taken aback and said, "Well what is your version". The little old lady said: "I know that the earth is supported by turtles."

The astronomer said, "O.K. but what supports the turtles?" The little old lady said, "Ha, you think you have me don't you? Well, I have news for you. It is turtles all the way down!"

 

Is God male or female? Actually looking on the Internet that is a subject of much debate. If you think God is male, do you mean that he has a male sex organ? Seems a bit ridiculous to believe that don't you think? A spirit does not need the physical attributes of a human. Surely everyone would agree that God must be a spirit and therefore would not need or require human attributes such as gender.

 

An excellent survey of the logic behind the concept of evolution. :D

 

Throughout Scripture the masculine gender is used when referring to the Triune God. Anyone who disputes this either has not read the Bible or doesn't believe it. It is that simple.

 

"But more to the point- I don't think natural processes do a very good job of explaining the origins of life at all. In fact, I think they do a very poor job. I have considered the claims of evolution and genuinely find that what some evolutionists will acknowledge in candid moments is true: Macroevolution is nothing more than wishful speculation."

The origin of life and evolution are two separate subjects. Even Darwin suggested that life was started by God.

 

And the Greeks knew for a FACT that a giant Turtle held up the Earth. </font>[/QUOTE]Phillip,

I thought that turtle thing was an Egyptian concept, but perhaps the ancient Greeks were not beyond a little theft.

 

You are mistaken. A true evolutionist believes that the universe and life itself evolved either from inanimate matter or from nothing.

The evolutionary model begins with - well that depends. The most popular ‘guess’ is the ‘Big Bang Theory’ in which a ‘tiny speck’ of unknown origin with infinite mass explodes: the universe, you, and I are the subsequent result. A second ‘guess’, with some adherents, is the spontaneous creation of the universe from the mathematics of quantum physics and relativity theory! [page 206, Vol. 2 and page 16, Vol. 3 of The Modern Creation Trilogy by Henry M. and John D. Morris]

 

The turtles and the Big Bang jive one-on-one
with me - what is good in one is about as good
in the other. Let me see if i got it right?

The un-universes consisted of undifferentated
nothingness. Then part of it exploded - KA
Boom!

Somehow, something is missing???