Ever hear of "vigilantes"? They often wanna play God and kill someone who they perceive as a sinner, even when they've done nothing against their killer(s).
Who Did Cain Marry?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Baptist4life, Jun 10, 2013.
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How fair is thy love, my sister, my spouse! how much better is thy love than wine! and the smell of thine ointments than all spices!Cant. 4:10
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In each area, each generation would have tended to weed out those, from a common origin (Noah/family) who did not have the genetic variation of skin color best suited for the region. To say that most black people "originally" came from lands near the equator denies that all existing people originally came from Noah & family.
IMO, you are trying to put God in a cage, when you presume to know EXACTLY what is/isn't His "basic law". Yet, you cannot give evidence that God considered incest to be against His "basic law" until such a point, in time, that He deemed it to be so.
Genesis 9: KJB
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
Prior to that were these instructions:
Genesis: 1 KJB
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Mankind & animals were vegetarian. Here the word meat means food.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Baptist4life Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Stating that a God-given decree existed at a time when none can be shown in Scripture to be in effect seems like adding to the Bible. -
Now, a case can be made for Noah's grandchildren marrying nieces and nephews, but NOT for Adam and Eve's kids marrying each other.
Cain was guilty of covetousness jealousy, and disrespect of God as well as murder. Had he been fully wanting to obey God, he woulda inquired of God what sacrifice he could make that woulda been acceptable to Him. Maybe God rejected Cain's sacrifice due to his ATTITUDE.
And GOD didn't always explain everything He did. For example, He listed BATS among the non-kosher BIRDS.
The whole Old Testament points to JESUS. Everyone who wprshipped God looked for the Messiah. When He came, few recognized Him, but He left His Gospel to spread the fact of His coming, death, and resurrection to the whole world. And Jesus Himself said He was NOT come to CHANGE any of God's laws, but to FULFILL certain ones of them.
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And then there's Genesis 6, when God said the whole earth was corrupt. There HAD to have been something to have been corrupted-common sense. -
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Adam and Eve were the first, and ONLY two people on the earth, God even said "It is not good for man to be alone....", why would he say that if there were other people around? Therefore ALL other people had to come from those two, and since God told you that Eve is the mother of all living, Cain HAD to have married a sister, niece, or some other relative------COMMON SENSE.
Yet YOU don't believe that.
So..................since you've repeatedly stated that you do not believe Cain married a relative, one can only conclude that YOU believe God created "other people" apart from Adam and Eve---------the only conclusion we can come to.
You also don't believe that the different "races" (caucasian, black, oriental, etc.) could all have come from Adam and Eve, so one can only conclude that YOU believe God created the races separately--------------again, the only conclusion we can come to.
God creating separate races, "other people", and all the rest of the garbage you're trying to spew is seriously un-Biblical, and borders on craziness! -
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How many children did Adam and Eve have? We know about Cain, Abel and Seth. But Adam lived about 800 years after Seth was born. If you consider half that lifespan he and Eve were fertile and a baby takes about a year, then Adam and Eve could have had perhaps 400 kids, half girls. Then lets say after another 100 years, these 400 start producing kids perhaps 200 or so a year. Thus when Cain was alive, he would have had several sisters, and nieces to take as his wife.
All this is speculation, but there is no problem with where Cain got his wife. She was family. -
So, you still believe GOD condoned incest between full siblings, B4L?
And A&E were of the same race. Like produces like. So, YOU tell me where the various races came from.
"Oops-Bleached another one" won't do.
You're in a tizzy cuz you've been exposed as a closet KJVO in various dialogues, and you have no Scriptural support for it. And again, anything WE say about where Cain got a wife is speculation, as both Scripture and secular history are silent about it. So, you might as well get over it. You cannot prove me wrong, and I can't prove myself right on this'n. It's just one of those mysteries that GOD will reveal to us some day, if He chooses to. Nothing we can change about it; whatever effects it had are still the same-it changes nothing. -
According to the extra Biblical book of Enoch, the name of the person Cain married was Candy. Since she did not have a last name, she took Cain's name for her last name. Her name was Candy Cain, and here is a picture of her from the CNN archives.
And here is their family
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Eve was made from Adam and they procreated.
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Baptist4life Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
You've been shown that God did not condemn incest until much later. And you've been refuted by many others on here about what you believe. You've insinuated that God created other people besides Adam and Eve without any Biblical support, so where are YOU any different than the KJVO people you attack for the same thing? I believe "hypocrite" is the word that applies here.
I'm not 'in a tizzy" about anything. If you want to pretend I'm some "closet KJVO" that's fine with me. I'd rather be called that, than be considered a "nut". What you're insinuating would undermine the entire book of Genesis! THAT would worry me, if I were you. You seem to be the one who is upset. You've exposed yourself to those on here to what you actually believe. If you are that "out there" on this topic, heaven knows, your credibility just went out the window! Thank you. -
Further, it is clear that you don't have a good grasp of how both man and God used/uses genetics. Either that or you have a specific motive for ignoring important points because they don't meet the criterior that you've set. That is using "incest", as you define it, to justify your apparent belief that God created multiple peoples -- races -- classes -- different physical attributes -- in the beginning.
Scriptures tell us that God created Adam in His own image, which would have included perfection in DNA. He then took a rib from Adam (identical DNA) and "modified" it to create a woman named Eve. Modification included X & Y chromosomes, establishing the gender/genetic difference between a man and a woman. Establishing mitochondrial DNA, whereby the linage of Christ could/would be carried by women back to Eve, born of Adam's flesh.
To suggest that Cain married a woman, created by some means other than resulting from a union of Adam and Eve, implies several things. One of which is that either Adam or Eve committed adultry. ie Cain married a half sister, at the minimum. In order to trace the linage of Christ back to Adam, through Eve, it would have been Adam who sinned in this manner.
To my knowlege, there is nothing in scripture that indicates Adam committed this sin. In fact, lack of this sin is indicated in that Adam was so faithful to Eve that he followed her, instead of God's instruction.
Again, to my knowledge there is nothing in scripture about incest being a sin until God declared it to be so. In order for your premise about incest to stand, you have to claim that Adam committed a particular sin without scriptural proof that he did so. The sin of adultry. Especially in view of when Adam became aware of "good & evil" and the birth of their children. In essence you are saying that Adam willfully sinned with another woman in defiance of God, yet again. Can you show me where the scriptures record that he committed this sin?
If this sin happened, then, the linage of Christ back to Adam is broken. See mitochondrial DNA. Christ's linage would be traced back to the other woman that God would have had to create. One not born of Adam. Or, are you saying that God took more than one rib from Adam? -
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If there is an, "Age of Accountability;" What did this little innocent baby boy do? And he said, Cursed Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. Gen. 9:25
Why does this verse end as it does? And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham [is] the father of Canaan. Gen. 9:18
What is so significant concerning this innocent baby boy, one of the sons of Ham, born after the flood?
Could his birth have been relative to incest?
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