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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by 37818, Jan 14, 2022.

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    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    That is extremely presumptive and found nowhere in the text.
     
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    Oh boy, here we go. DIFFERENT BOOK.
     
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    Stupid is as stupid does…… your attempt to parse your own nonsensical definitions and redefine doctrine to fit your unbiblical views has been the perfect example of stupid.

    peace to you
     
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    You assume a different book. I have no reason to think that.
    Names are blotted out or not blotted out. That feature tells me it is the same book. Only those three references having that feature. Odd.
     
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    Prove what you think is unBiblical.
     
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    There is nothing to suggest they are the same book. The book of the living was the physical record of the nation of Israel, God's chosen people. The Lamb's Book of Life are the people of the Kingdom. Two totally different things.
     
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    There is also no reason to think it is the same book yet you are forming a doctrine around an assumption.
     
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    Your view that there is a “condition that must be met” that will “merit” God’s choice of a person as elect is unbiblical, as well as a nonsensical contradiction of the definition of “unmerited”.

    I won’t attempt to “prove” anything to you as the volumes of scripture others have already quoted rolls off your limited understanding like water off the back of a duck.

    peace to you
     
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    You made a false accusation. I never made any such claim. Rather Jesus said in Matthew 7:21, ". . . shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father . . . ."
    This being specified in Matthew 18:3, ". . . Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. . . ." That being what Jesus explained in John 3:3.
     
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    Truth versus an untruth. Is a matter of doctrine. 1 Peter 1:2.
     
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    But you aren't arguing against the doctrine, this is what I'm trying to get you to understand. You are arguing against a poor choice of a word SOME use to describe the doctrine.
     
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    It involves the issue of children who died as little children having their names in the book at the Judgment, Revelation 20:15, Matthew 19:14.
     
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    It is the common terminology used to make that doctrine. The Biblical teaching is found in 1 Peter 1:2.
     
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    I get it now. Wow! How could I have missed it!

    This whole thread is gaslighting. You really had me going there. You write a bunch of nonsensical stuff, engage in volumes of debate attempting to prove the nonsense and when you are shown to be in error, you deny you ever said it and accuse folks of making false accusations.

    Well done. I’ll leave you to it.

    peace to you
     
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    No, that verse actually has nothing to do with that at all.
     
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